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[Paphitis]

Glad to hear that you seem to agree that those responsible for the chemical attacks should be held accountable. We have found some common ground.

There are many injustices around the globe. You mentioned one and I will mention the illegal partition of Cyprus as another. Just because Turkey or Israel are simply not accountable for their crime, does not mean the same must apply to Assad.

I believe the US knows who is responsible. You even say they are capable of removing Assad just like that with a few black ops troops. Whilst I know these specially trained soldiers are highly skilled assassins, I do not believe the US is capable of such a feat against Syria. I also believe that regime change will be an even bigger disaster. Who will fill the power void? We have seen what is occuring in Egypt, Libya and Iraq.

The matter is simple, and people should demand this simplicity from their elected leaders.

Someone used chemical weapons on civilians. It is likely to be Assad. The question is, how is he to be made accountable without destroying the country and creating a power void? The FSA is a danger to regional stability, far more so than Assad. Imagine if they gain control of Syria's chemical arsenal?

The only way is a missile strike on his chemical stockpiles! Sending a few Black ops soldiers sounds like a another great hollywood movie starring Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt and filmed "somewhere in the Middle East" where a lot of badies are mowed down without loss and against all odds and where at the end they return back into the warm embraces of Angelina Jolie and such like and have hot steamy sex.

[DrCyprus]

It is likely to be Assad. The question is, how is he to be made accountable without destroying the country and creating a power void? The FSA is a danger to regional stability, far more so than Assad. Imagine if they gain control of Syria's chemical arsenal?

The questions still is. Was it Assad in the first place?

[kurupetos]

Well, let's consider what the lack of action says to Assad and to the victims of this outrage..

.. and it was an outrage of the worst kind wasn't it boys and girls...???

So what message does the lack of any real and meaningful response send ...???

Isn't the message to Assad to do it again...???

Now the "rebels" (as someone says above) are far, far from supporters of our liberal democratic ways ... indeed most a bunch of religious zealots ... but what arrangements the future holds for Syria is a matter for the people of Syria.

Our role should be confined to a Moral One... Whoever has used these damnable chemical weapons must be paid to pay a price as punishment and most, most importantly to deter future use against hundreds of civilians.

To do nothing is as damnable as the use of these disgusting bombs .

What a load of smelly bollocks.

Who told you the Americunts and your stupid country are the peace makers, while everybody else is evil, goblin?

Goblins are too stupid to see what's going on and see who really controls most of the world.

It's because of his atheist British upbringing; he has been taught to believe anything the corrupted media of his unethical country tells him.

I don't think there's any hope left for the poor bastard.

Obama and the muslim terrorists will keep gassing and bombing civilians, but he will only be eager to listen to the pro-Zionist media, like BBC and Channel 4.

[kurupetos]

^^Vaffanculo folletto.

You go and tell that to the people of Tylliria and Famagusta ... civilians deliberately targeted by Turkey in the past ... as we all will know.

Both cases where indiscriminate bombing of civilians took place and where the Great Powers looked on...

... weren 't the Great Powers as guilty as Turkey back then and on dozens of other occasions in CY... again, as today, through their inaction.

An easier Moral Question to answer for some of you scabby lot...

... You see a bunch of thuggish adults beating the shit out of some children..

... Do you walk away...???

You have lost it, goblin. It's false flags operations. Wake up!

[Schnauzer]

Glad to hear that you seem to agree that those responsible for the chemical attacks should be held accountable. We have found some common ground.

The only way is a missile strike on his chemical stockpiles! Sending a few Black ops soldiers sounds like a another great hollywood movie starring Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt and filmed "somewhere in the Middle East" where a lot of badies are mowed down without loss and against all odds and where at the end they return back into the warm embraces of Angelina Jolie and such like and have hot steamy sex.

I cannot imagine where you would form the opinion that I would NOT agree that the perpetrators of such an horrendous action (such as we are discussing here) should be held responsible.

What I DO NOT agree with is that the 'Assad Regime' should be targeted (and held accountable) WITHOUT clear proof of responsibility.

Furthermore, IF the 'Assad Regime' IS found to be responsible and military action taken as a result of such findings, I think it would be a grave mistake to direct a 'Missile Strike' on the regimes 'Chemical Stockpiles' since such an action would surely culminate in a far greater loss of life than that of the relatively smaller discharge of the same (or similar) poisonous gas which has brought us all to this pass.

Sadly, it will be hard to accept ANY verdict (imho) since past experience has taught us that, when it comes to matters concerning the political structures of the 'Middle East', ANY cause will suit whichever 'Tyrant' occupies EITHER side of a conflict, unfortunately, it is always the innocent members of the population that suffer the consequences in every case.

As to 'Films', about the only time the 'Yanks' were able to prosecute a military action with any degree of success, was when they invaded the tiny island of 'Grenada' (smaller than the 'Isle of Wight' in the UK) and actually made a 'FILM' about it, starring 'John Wayne', a little bit before the era of 'Tom Cruise' or 'Brad Pitt' BUT, a roaring success at the 'American Box Office',

God help them if they are ever involved in an evenly balanced contest.

[bsharpish]

Did they dig him up and reanimate him then ..... .??

John Wayne dead 1979
Invasion of Grenada 1984

I know he was a shite actor, but surely, someone would have noticed

I assume you mean Clint Eastwood in Heartbreak Ridge

[Schnauzer]

Did they dig him up and reanimate him then ..... .??

John Wayne dead 1979
Invasion of Grenada 1984

I know he was a shite actor, but surely, someone would have noticed

I assume you mean Clint Eastwood in Heartbreak Ridge

Well spotted, I just KNEW there was a famous 'Cowboy' in the film,
'Ronald Reagan' was my first thought on the matter, my mistake, thanks.

[Oceanside50]

Glad to hear that you seem to agree that those responsible for the chemical attacks should be held accountable. We have found some common ground.

The only way is a missile strike on his chemical stockpiles! Sending a few Black ops soldiers sounds like a another great hollywood movie starring Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt and filmed "somewhere in the Middle East" where a lot of badies are mowed down without loss and against all odds and where at the end they return back into the warm embraces of Angelina Jolie and such like and have hot steamy sex.

I cannot imagine where you would form the opinion that I would NOT agree that the perpetrators of such an horrendous action (such as we are discussing here) should be held responsible.

What I DO NOT agree with is that the 'Assad Regime' should be targeted (and held accountable) WITHOUT clear proof of responsibility.

Furthermore, IF the 'Assad Regime' IS found to be responsible and military action taken as a result of such findings, I think it would be a grave mistake to direct a 'Missile Strike' on the regimes 'Chemical Stockpiles' since such an action would surely culminate in a far greater loss of life than that of the relatively smaller discharge of the same (or similar) poisonous gas which has brought us all to this pass.

Sadly, it will be hard to accept ANY verdict (imho) since past experience has taught us that, when it comes to matters concerning the political structures of the 'Middle East', ANY cause will suit whichever 'Tyrant' occupies EITHER side of a conflict, unfortunately, it is always the innocent members of the population that suffer the consequences in every case.

As to 'Films', about the only time the 'Yanks' were able to prosecute a military action with any degree of success, was when they invaded the tiny island of 'Grenada' (smaller than the 'Isle of Wight' in the UK) and actually made a 'FILM' about it, starring 'John Wayne', a little bit before the era of 'Tom Cruise' or 'Brad Pitt' BUT, a roaring success at the 'American Box Office',

God help them if they are ever involved in an evenly balanced contest.

As to 'Films', about the only time the 'Yanks' were able to prosecute a military action with any degree of success, was when they invaded the tiny island of 'Grenada' (smaller than the 'Isle of Wight' in the UK) and actually made a 'FILM' about it, starring 'John Wayne', a little bit before the era of 'Tom Cruise' or 'Brad Pitt' BUT, a roaring success at the 'American Box Office',

It wasn't John Wayne it was Clint Eastwood..

Now imagine for a second Schnauzer if those canisters were not chemical but nuclear and 20,000 innocents were killed. Would American foreign policies of today, make more sense, or would you want nuclear tomorrow?

[Schnauzer]

Not really sure about the question regarding your 'Imaginary Scenarios' since I always endeavour to base my own opinions on actual 'Facts', however, since the whole basis of my views on this particular matter are founded on the 'Legal' principles of that which is currently taking place, I feel I should emphasize that (thus far) I have seen very little evidence of the 'Integrity' that is supposed to bolster the principles of 'Justice'.

If you look closely (and even if you don't) you will see the emergence of an absolute desire to implement exactly the same responses to the subject in question as were there at the source, despite such responses being dismissed initially.

It is in such areas as these 'Political Manoeuvres' that I find myself so engrossed, I cannot understand how so many can accept such blatant 'Political Chicanery' without at least acknowledging it's existence.

As to the 'Clint Eastwood' bit, I did not remember the 'Cast' of the film, only the lack of credibility for it, my apologies.

[DT.]

If Assad goes and takes his cronies with him i may pack up the family and do the same. Btw i'm about to be racist.... The people of this region with the exception of Israel, portions of Lebanon and a few neighbourhoods of Limassol and Nicosia that do not vote Akel, cannot be ruled by democracy. There is an obvious lack of education and democratic culture. Sheep that need a shepherd, dimwitted lemmings willing to follow any arsehole to their thankfully early deaths.

Give these people democracy and the results are clear....they're the same people that bring you the Muslim Brotherhood to government, the AKP and Akel. In Syria they'll probably end up bringing in Mullah Omar from Afghanistan to run their government.

Nothing wrong with being a little racist!

How do you think Paphites feel? The European border passes through Paphos from the Coral Bay area and juts out in the vicinity of Paphos airport. When you cross the border from European Paphos into the Middle East and Asia, you notice the absence of civilization and Western Culture and begin to notice Eastern influences such as what you may find in Nicosia and Afghanistan for instance.

My apologies...I've forgotten to include the boulevards of Kato Paphos and the village of Amargetti also known as the little Paris of the Mediterranean.

One more thing!

You guys need to get out a bit more!

Go to Asia and visit places like Thailand, Malaysia, Japan and China.

They are every bit as sophisticated as you Europeans, are culturally very rich, and have better, tastier and healthier food. I am not joking at all.

Also, they have philotimo. The most polite and down to earth people you will ever meet and very sincere. This is something I would dare to say is lacking in Paris, and the boulevards of Kato Paphos!

One more thing, the same applies to Middle eastern countries such as Qatar and UAE for instance.

Get out more? Mate I was raised in Oman, I live in Cyprus, I work from Boston, Ljubljana and London, I've visited all the countries you quote above a number of times and I am on a plane 2 weeks of the month. If I got out more i would forget where i should be returning to!!!