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[Maximus]

Furthermore, I don't think these judgments automatically give settlers a right to stay in Cyprus.

"it would be unrealistic to expect that as a result of these cases the Court should, or could, directly order the Turkish Government to................"

What can the ECHR do?

[DrCyprus]

Furthermore, I don't think these judgments automatically give settlers a right to stay in Cyprus.

"it would be unrealistic to expect that as a result of these cases the Court should, or could, directly order the Turkish Government to................"

What can the ECHR do?

The ECHR will 'ask' the good will of Turkey to withdraw the settlers and the Turks will try to stall it as much as possible by finding minor issues here and there.

[Maximus]

Furthermore, I don't think these judgments automatically give settlers a right to stay in Cyprus.

"it would be unrealistic to expect that as a result of these cases the Court should, or could, directly order the Turkish Government to................"

What can the ECHR do?

The ECHR will 'ask' the good will of Turkey to withdraw the settlers and the Turks will try to stall it as much as possible by finding minor issues here and there.

Yes and there is not much they can do when confronted with Turkish intransigence because they cant enforce the evictions or expect Turkey to let the original owners enjoy and have access to their property.

Turkey subscribes to the notion "that if you do something wrong and stall things for long enough you may get away with it." but this is not the case in my opinion and it still does not give the settlers the right to remain in Cyprus.

[Jerry]

Furthermore, I don't think these judgments automatically give settlers a right to stay in Cyprus.

"it would be unrealistic to expect that as a result of these cases the Court should, or could, directly order the Turkish Government to................"

What can the ECHR do?

The ECHR will 'ask' the good will of Turkey to withdraw the settlers and the Turks will try to stall it as much as possible by finding minor issues here and there.

Yes and there is not much they can do when confronted with Turkish intransigence because they cant enforce the evictions or expect Turkey to let the original owners enjoy and have access to their property.

Turkey subscribes to the notion "that if you do something wrong and stall things for long enough you may get away with it." but this is not the case in my opinion and it still does not give the settlers the right to remain in Cyprus.

It does not give them the right but for all practical purposes the longer they stay the harder it will be to remove them, with that knowledge Turkey has stalled a solution and always told the GCs "accept this solution or the next will be worse"

Only time will tell if natural justice will triumph over the ECHR's "endorsement" the law of the gun.

BTW they are not "original owners" they are the real legal owners.

[DrCyprus]

Turkey subscribes to the notion "that if you do something wrong and stall things for long enough you may get away with it." but this is not the case in my opinion and it still does not give the settlers the right to remain in Cyprus.

Turkey is the kind of thief that steals from you whilst screaming 'THIEF THIEF'. Turkey is your typical highschool bully, getting a rise out of making other people's lives miserable and crying foul and blaming everyone else when it's time to face the flag. They are also masters at deceiving their own people. Everyone wants to be the good guy, and Turkish propaganda makes all Turks think they are righteous martyrs under constant persecution by other foreign powers.

Most of the posts by our Turkish friends here are rampant with double standards and outright hate and racism. It's particularly funny when VP/Big0z/Kentish say things like 'All Greeks are liars and racists' whilst not realising that their remark is just a racist lie.

All in all, I wish we had people like Ihmet in the forum to voice their own opinions on the subject. All the same, I'm sure that having Kurupet and GiG as our cheerleaders here is not exactly an open invitation

[Jerry]

Turkey subscribes to the notion "that if you do something wrong and stall things for long enough you may get away with it." but this is not the case in my opinion and it still does not give the settlers the right to remain in Cyprus.

Turkey is the kind of thief that steals from you whilst screaming 'THIEF THIEF'. Turkey is your typical highschool bully, getting a rise out of making other people's lives miserable and crying foul and blaming everyone else when it's time to face the flag. They are also masters at deceiving their own people. Everyone wants to be the good guy, and Turkish propaganda makes all Turks think they are righteous martyrs under constant persecution by other foreign powers.

Most of the posts by our Turkish friends here are rampant with double standards and outright hate and racism. It's particularly funny when VP/Big0z/Kentish say things like 'All Greeks are liars and racists' whilst not realising that their remark is just a racist lie.

All in all, I wish we had people like Ihmet in the forum to voice their own opinions on the subject. All the same, I'm sure that having Kurupet and GiG as our cheerleaders here is not exactly an open invitation

Oh no, you have got it completely wrong. The Cyprus problem will be solved by letting the whole world know how much we hate and despise ALL turkish Cypriots.

Turkey is the enemy, it has made valuable gifts to the likes of VP, Oz etc and they don't want to give them up.

[DrCyprus]

The Cyprus problem will be solved by letting the whole world know how much we hate and despise ALL turkish Cypriots.

Jerry's fantasy:

Jerry: 'Waaa waaa, TURKISH CYPRIOTS I HATE YOU I HATE YOU'.
Ban Ki-moon: Turkish Cypriots, what did you do again?
Turkish Cypriots: nothing nothing!!
Jerry: 'Waaa Waaa snif Waaa'
Ban Ki-moon: NONSENSE, MY PRINCESS IS CRYING!! GET OUT OF THIS HOUSE AT ONCE.

The real world:

Jerry: 'I don't want to share the island with Turkish Cypriots'
Ban Ki-moon: Tough.
Turkish Cypriots: HaHa! Your hatred enables us to follow Momma Turkiye's imperial policies! HaHa!
*Cyprus explodes*
Obama: Oops! Sorry guyz. I was trying to hit Assad but a fly landed on my nose.

[Jerry]

The Cyprus problem will be solved by letting the whole world know how much we hate and despise ALL turkish Cypriots.

Jerry's fantasy:

Jerry: 'Waaa waaa, TURKISH CYPRIOTS I HATE YOU I HATE YOU'.
Ban Ki-moon: Turkish Cypriots, what did you do again?
Turkish Cypriots: nothing nothing!!
Jerry: 'Waaa Waaa snif Waaa'
Ban Ki-moon: NONSENSE, MY PRINCESS IS CRYING!! GET OUT OF THIS HOUSE AT ONCE.

The real world:

Jerry: 'I don't want to share the island with Turkish Cypriots'
Ban Ki-moon: Tough.
Turkish Cypriots: HaHa! Your hatred enables us to follow Momma Turkiye's imperial policies! HaHa!
*Cyprus explodes*
Obama: Oops! Sorry guyz. I was trying to hit Assad but a fly landed on my nose.

You have completely misunderstood my post!

[Lordo]

oh dear oh dearie me. talk of the blind leading the blind. so you think the reason why tcs want bbf is because terkey gave them something and they dont want to give it up.

it has nothing to do with all the plans the gcs created since 1960 on how to wipe out the tcs. it has nothing to do with the fact that no gc politician can openly declare that enosis is over to this day.

allah of mighty where were you boys when your allah was dishing brains.

[Get Real!]

oh dear oh dearie me. talk of the blind leading the blind. so you think the reason why tcs want bbf is because terkey gave them something and they dont want to give it up.

it has nothing to do with all the plans the gcs created since 1960 on how to wipe out the tcs. it has nothing to do with the fact that no gc politician can openly declare that enosis is over to this day.

allah of mighty where were you boys when your allah was dishing brains.

Have patience dear Lordo and in the end I promise you’ll get the biggest of the three!