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[Maximus]

I agree with the 2 sides option, one side Cyprus for the GCs and the other Turkey for ALL Turks.

Simple, so now f. o. back to your side.

The solution is simple and this way, it is in the best interests of "both sides" moving forwards. However, it is not so simple getting the solution implemented when the Turks purposefully sustain the problem.

[Lordo]

18% of the population cannot have 50% of the power. At best, you can become an autonomous region within the existing system.

i dont think you understand the proposal about power sharing. just as cyprus has equal time in the presidency of the eu with germany it is actually an eu principle to share equal power no matter what the population. the federal level will be 50 50. in your southern parliment you will have proportinal power. if this aint good enough for you then there will be no peace not in a millionyears my boy.

[Maximus]

18% of the population cannot have 50% of the power. At best, you can become an autonomous region within the existing system.

i dont think you understand the proposal about power sharing. just as cyprus has equal time in the presidency of the eu with germany it is actually an eu principle to share equal power no matter what the population. the federal level will be 50 50. in your southern parliment you will have proportinal power. if this aint good enough for you then there will be no peace not in a millionyears my boy.

I don't think you understand anything. Democracy is an EU principle at the state level.

Every EU member state is democratic.

[repulsewarrior]

18% of the population cannot have 50% of the power. At best, you can become an autonomous region within the existing system.

i dont think you understand the proposal about power sharing. just as cyprus has equal time in the presidency of the eu with germany it is actually an eu principle to share equal power no matter what the population. the federal level will be 50 50. in your southern parliment you will have proportinal power. if this aint good enough for you then there will be no peace not in a millionyears my boy.

I don't think you understand anything. Democracy is an EU principle at the state level.

Every EU member state is democratic.

...and here you have a nail hit on the head.

[Viewpoint]

18% of the population cannot have 50% of the power. At best, you can become an autonomous region within the existing system.

i dont think you understand the proposal about power sharing. just as cyprus has equal time in the presidency of the eu with germany it is actually an eu principle to share equal power no matter what the population. the federal level will be 50 50. in your southern parliment you will have proportinal power. if this aint good enough for you then there will be no peace not in a millionyears my boy.

I don't think you understand anything. Democracy is an EU principle at the state level.

Every EU member state is democratic.

...and here you have a nail hit on the head.

So what does that prove, the knife maybe be very sharp but its the doctors skilled hnads that save lives, use the knife incorrectly and you can easily kill people.

[Maximus]

18% of the population cannot have 50% of the power. At best, you can become an autonomous region within the existing system.

i dont think you understand the proposal about power sharing. just as cyprus has equal time in the presidency of the eu with germany it is actually an eu principle to share equal power no matter what the population. the federal level will be 50 50. in your southern parliment you will have proportinal power. if this aint good enough for you then there will be no peace not in a millionyears my boy.

I don't think you understand anything. Democracy is an EU principle at the state level.

Every EU member state is democratic.

...and here you have a nail hit on the head.

So what does that prove, the knife maybe be very sharp but its the doctors skilled hnads that save lives, use the knife incorrectly and you can easily kill people.

Political equality is most definitely the wrong knife in the wrong hands and it is bound to kill people, like before.

Forget about it.

[kentish]

kentish, you are busy telling me what "others" will decide, i asked a simple question; you, personally, what do you say?

as for you vp, your "we" or "you" is not dialog, it is a dogmatist talking, speaking from a book written a long time ago. i ask you, you personally, i speak to you, and my twenty words instead of three, is to be as precise, and as clear as possible; regretfully, over the years, i have come to the conclusion that you don't read peoples' posts (nor are you willing to challenge your own flaws and fears)...

there are three sides to the debate, "yours", the "others" which you are fixated on, and the Cypriots, (in whatever numbers) who you deny exist.

read my post you muppet, cant you see i have answered your question. now go and ask the same question of your gc mates but dont forget to duck

If you asking for another opinion, I think the "two sides" should be separated.

Cyprus was the only country of those liberated (if we can call it that) from the oppressive Ottoman empire that did not get democracy (there was no unity in the first place) and it was the only country where its Ottoman settlers did not get their marching orders to be repatriated back to the "modern" Turkish state in Anatolia. The "two sides" should never have been put together in the way that they were in the first place. Its easy to accommodate a few Turkish Cypriots who are ok with being an ethnic minority in a Cypriot state but for the rest, there is Turkey, where they belong.

The occupation and this lunacy of "two sides" one nation must end. It does not work.

i am delighted to read views like this. i feel this is the view of the majority of gc and this means that a solution is impossible. the position in cyprus will not change at least for the lifetime of every person that uses this forum. two seperate states is the only option and in time it will happen

[Maximus]

kentish, you are busy telling me what "others" will decide, i asked a simple question; you, personally, what do you say?

as for you vp, your "we" or "you" is not dialog, it is a dogmatist talking, speaking from a book written a long time ago. i ask you, you personally, i speak to you, and my twenty words instead of three, is to be as precise, and as clear as possible; regretfully, over the years, i have come to the conclusion that you don't read peoples' posts (nor are you willing to challenge your own flaws and fears)...

there are three sides to the debate, "yours", the "others" which you are fixated on, and the Cypriots, (in whatever numbers) who you deny exist.

read my post you muppet, cant you see i have answered your question. now go and ask the same question of your gc mates but dont forget to duck

If you asking for another opinion, I think the "two sides" should be separated.

Cyprus was the only country of those liberated (if we can call it that) from the oppressive Ottoman empire that did not get democracy (there was no unity in the first place) and it was the only country where its Ottoman settlers did not get their marching orders to be repatriated back to the "modern" Turkish state in Anatolia. The "two sides" should never have been put together in the way that they were in the first place. Its easy to accommodate a few Turkish Cypriots who are ok with being an ethnic minority in a Cypriot state but for the rest, there is Turkey, where they belong.

The occupation and this lunacy of "two sides" one nation must end. It does not work.

i am delighted to read views like this. i feel this is the view of the majority of gc and this means that a solution is impossible. the position in cyprus will not change at least for the lifetime of every person that uses this forum. two seperate states is the only option and in time it will happen

Two seperate states, Cyprus and Turkey and in the meantime the "TRNC" will remain unrecognised.

[kentish]

............in the meantime the trnc will remain nrecognised. have no problem with that, in the meantime. thank you

[DrCyprus]

............in the meantime the trnc will remain nrecognised. have no problem with that, in the meantime. thank you

Kentish is probably going to print the contents of this thread to take them to one of the truth conventions he organises.