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[kentish]

"That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status."

..can you read English?

count them, three governing bodies.

...now, will you answer my question?

i still cannot see your question. you are making pointless statements.

if you are asking me whether i agree a federal government of equal status, first ask yourself whether gc would agree to such a thing. the answer is no chance, they would rather lose an arm than have equality with tc.

i dont know why you are obsessed with me answering the question , if that is your question,my answer would be no thank you. gc will never want to live side by side with tc on an equal footing. as far as i am concerned i want gc cyprus and tc cyprus to be two entirely different countries and to only allow crossing of borders showing valid passports.
if the population was polled as to " would you want to live side by side" the answer would be very similar to the annan plan answer. i would be one of the minority of the tc voting "no"
face facts it is all over , there will never be a meging of gc and tc in cyprus again.
ask the gc on this forum whether they want a federal government with three governing bodies. i dread to think what they will call you

[Viewpoint]

"That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status."

..can you read English?

count them, three governing bodies.

...now, will you answer my question?

i still cannot see your question. you are making pointless statements.

if you are asking me whether i agree a federal government of equal status, first ask yourself whether gc would agree to such a thing. the answer is no chance, they would rather lose an arm than have equality with tc.

i dont know why you are obsessed with me answering the question , if that is your question,my answer would be no thank you. gc will never want to live side by side with tc on an equal footing. as far as i am concerned i want gc cyprus and tc cyprus to be two entirely different countries and to only allow crossing of borders showing valid passports.
if the population was polled as to " would you want to live side by side" the answer would be very similar to the annan plan answer. i would be one of the minority of the tc voting "no"
face facts it is all over , there will never be a meging of gc and tc in cyprus again.
ask the gc on this forum whether they want a federal government with three governing bodies. i dread to think what they will call you

Kent Ive been saying the same thing for months but he wont listen, he thinks we are the ones objecting and cant understand that its the Gcs who would tell him to go F..k himself if he even suggested treating Tcs as equals.

[DrCyprus]

18% of the population cannot have 50% of the power. At best, you can become an autonomous region within the existing system.

[kentish]

exactly vp, if he had this conversation with gc they would lock him up and dear dr , agree 18% cannot have 50% of power but at the same time 78% or whatever the gc pop is cannot have 100% of the power , and thats what you have always coveted.

we are at a crossroads with no answer so the best thing is forget the other side and create two countries. this forum could disband and pointless arguments finish.

[DrCyprus]

exactly vp, if he had this conversation with gc they would lock him up and dear dr , agree 18% cannot have 50% of power but at the same time 78% or whatever the gc pop is cannot have 100% of the power , and thats what you have always coveted.

we are at a crossroads with no answer so the best thing is forget the other side and create two countries. this forum could disband and pointless arguments finish.

Two countries is actually off the table indefinitely. A Turkish Cypriot controlled autonomous community or generality could work if negotiated properly.

[Viewpoint]

exactly vp, if he had this conversation with gc they would lock him up and dear dr , agree 18% cannot have 50% of power but at the same time 78% or whatever the gc pop is cannot have 100% of the power , and thats what you have always coveted.

we are at a crossroads with no answer so the best thing is forget the other side and create two countries. this forum could disband and pointless arguments finish.

Two countries is actually off the table indefinitely. A Turkish Cypriot controlled autonomous community or generality could work if negotiated properly.

Why is it off the table indefinitely? never say never you never know how things will develop...you never thought Turkey would intervene look what happened there plus if the GCs continue to refuse every deal put before them who knows what the world will do.

[repulsewarrior]

kentish, you are busy telling me what "others" will decide, i asked a simple question; you, personally, what do you say?

as for you vp, your "we" or "you" is not dialog, it is a dogmatist talking, speaking from a book written a long time ago. i ask you, you personally, i speak to you, and my twenty words instead of three, is to be as precise, and as clear as possible; regretfully, over the years, i have come to the conclusion that you don't read peoples' posts (nor are you willing to challenge your own flaws and fears)...

there are three sides to the debate, "yours", the "others" which you are fixated on, and the Cypriots, (in whatever numbers) who you deny exist.

[kentish]

kentish, you are busy telling me what "others" will decide, i asked a simple question; you, personally, what do you say?

as for you vp, your "we" or "you" is not dialog, it is a dogmatist talking, speaking from a book written a long time ago. i ask you, you personally, i speak to you, and my twenty words instead of three, is to be as precise, and as clear as possible; regretfully, over the years, i have come to the conclusion that you don't read peoples' posts (nor are you willing to challenge your own flaws and fears)...

there are three sides to the debate, "yours", the "others" which you are fixated on, and the Cypriots, (in whatever numbers) who you deny exist.

read my post you muppet, cant you see i have answered your question. now go and ask the same question of your gc mates but dont forget to duck

[Maximus]

kentish, you are busy telling me what "others" will decide, i asked a simple question; you, personally, what do you say?

as for you vp, your "we" or "you" is not dialog, it is a dogmatist talking, speaking from a book written a long time ago. i ask you, you personally, i speak to you, and my twenty words instead of three, is to be as precise, and as clear as possible; regretfully, over the years, i have come to the conclusion that you don't read peoples' posts (nor are you willing to challenge your own flaws and fears)...

there are three sides to the debate, "yours", the "others" which you are fixated on, and the Cypriots, (in whatever numbers) who you deny exist.

read my post you muppet, cant you see i have answered your question. now go and ask the same question of your gc mates but dont forget to duck

If you asking for another opinion, I think the "two sides" should be separated.

Cyprus was the only country of those liberated (if we can call it that) from the oppressive Ottoman empire that did not get democracy (there was no unity in the first place) and it was the only country where its Ottoman settlers did not get their marching orders to be repatriated back to the "modern" Turkish state in Anatolia. The "two sides" should never have been put together in the way that they were in the first place. Its easy to accommodate a few Turkish Cypriots who are ok with being an ethnic minority in a Cypriot state but for the rest, there is Turkey, where they belong.

The occupation and this lunacy of "two sides" one nation must end. It does not work.

[B25]

I agree with the 2 sides option, one side Cyprus for the GCs and the other Turkey for ALL Turks.

Simple, so now f. o. back to your side.