So according to you everybody is guilty until proven otherwise?
piratis, take care of what u say bc it can turn boomerang to you.
firstly u r the one who is sure that the media who have the opposite opinion from your own gets money without ANY PROOF
secondly when i wrote : they were not taken to court was a reponse to what u said : did they prove their mud in court. so coming to conclusions of what i said is...
Ok, then I say that Makarios Drousiotis is a murder. This should be considered by everybody as the truth until he takes me to court to prove otherwise. This is your kind of logic?
u say that he takes money from the americans...its more or less the same
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why did pap invide the GS to start negotiation?
Whats wrong with that?
its wrong when your strategy is to first enter the EU to strengthen your position. is wrong when u reject the philosophy of the plan that was already there. if your strategy is to negotiate and work towards a solution ofcource u should do it.
The referendum part was a pre-condition. They made us accept this before they gave us the final plan.
it was sth that pap didnt want and he accepted
Maybe he thought that the GS would stay within the human rights declarations and principles of him own organization. Now that he knows this is not the case he will not make such mistake again.
i though he was cleverer than that
If the day after Annan 5 was presented all Greek Cypriots parties were declaring that this plan is unacceptable and that the GS gave everything to Turkey. And this was the message that was going by all GC parties abroad. And then in the referendum 95% of GCs had voted "no".
that was AP 4. i already in another thread expressed my concern about the reasons why this plan came whne it was the gc side which was more likely to reject the plan. dont get me wrong piratis. i dont believe in the holyness of the UN or the americans. its that their actions is outside our control and what i can critisize is our mistakes. and thats where we can improve ...if we accept that we make some.
I don't think they could do that. They work with secrecy, such move would be impossible to hide.
exactly. but let me remind u, it is the wise president, the wise head of our parliament and the rest of the gang who were declaring that a US official publicly said that the US gave money to support the AP. (when the guy was clever enouh nt to say that)
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second , i am really sorry that up to now the only ones that seem to take it from someone are : matsakis, lilikas and the like.
And Makarios drousiotis, and Politis and Cyprus mail.
hehe prove it.
from elefterotypia : ...Ακου υποβολέα: πρώτον, καθαρός ουρανός αστραπές δεν φοβάται. Δεύτερον -το είπαμε και χθες-, εκείνος που προβαίνει σε αποκαλύψεις, φέρει το βάρος της αποδείξεως. Τρίτον, τον πολυκέφαλο και πανδαίδαλο κιτρινισμό δεν τον αντιμετωπίζεις μόνο με ιερή οργή. Τον προκαλείς ευθέως, επιστρατεύοντας τον ένα και μοναδικό κριτή, την πραγματικότητα
couldnt resist
They hate him. Because of him they lost power and they will not see it again for long long long time (if ever). This REALLY pisses them off, believe me.
let me remind you that we are not talking of dysi but of a newspaper and some reporters. when were they in power?
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so what u now say is that the money were not given directly for support to AP but the support was from those who were obliged to them.
No.
What I say is:
Media X has opinion A
Media Y has opinion B bla bla
hehe piratis dont cut my quotes
i said that your example has nothing to do with what pap said. just read the report. dont worry it carries no dicease
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could u name one massmedia that supported the AP that you would trust as taking no money from the americans?
No. It is obvious that the Americans would support all media that served their interests.
and that shows your acceptance to the opinion of the other
