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by **Viewpoint** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:46 pm

Turkeys guarantee power continues as long as we are unable to find a solution...werent it you people who wanted to get rid of the 1960 agreements and to give Cyprus to Greece....whats changed? you are still trying to erase our rights according to the 1960 agreements and force us into minority status in a GC state.

by **kimon07** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:48 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Did anyone bother to ask these "TCs" what security they want if not the TA and at what stage are they prepared to send them away, Im sure it would not be before a comprehensive solution has been found.

You mean the TCs who demand the withdrawal of the Turkish army??? Why the hell ask them that when it is clear that they DON"T WANT the protection of the Turkish Army and they are NOT suggesting any altarnative? Isn't it clear they trust the RoC? Besides, It's their bloody business if they want any alternative protection isn't it?? And in any case, why don't YOU ask them that question? Via a referendum to which the Anatolians will not participate? Do you dare?

by **kimon07** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:50 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Turkeys guarantee power continues as long as we are unable to find a solution...werent it you people who wanted to get rid of the 1960 agreements and to give Cyprus to Greece....whats changed? you are still trying to erase our rights according to the 1960 agreements and force us into minority status...

No, no. We are trying to help you come back to an internationally RECOGNIZED minority status in the RoC.

by **Flying Horse** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:54 pm

Get Real! wrote:It’s now about the country Cyprus, not communities. Community talks and complicated arrangements are well and truly OVER mark my words.

A community can only thrive when its leaders, lead the way......putting their country first.
The rest will come later. I wouldn't be so bold as to say community talks are well and truly over, they will just take a totally different role once the whole lot is put back on the map where it belongs.

Anyone who doesn't want to be part of a country, or community has the choice to move out of course ..... If they don't like it

by **Viewpoint** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:01 pm

kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Did anyone bother to ask these "TCs" what security they want if not the TA and at what stage are they prepared to send them away, Im sure it would not be before a comprehensive solution has been found.

You mean the TCs who demand the withdrawal of the Turkish army??? Why the hell ask them that when it is clear that they DON"T WANT the protection of the Turkish Army and they are NOT suggesting any altarnative? Isn't it clear they trust the RoC? Besides, It's their bloody business if they want any alternative protection isn't it?? And in any case, why don't YOU ask them that question? Via a referendum to which the Anatolians will not participate? Do you dare?

They will never agree to the TA leaving unless there is an alternative within a comprehensive solution just as they showed with the AP which you rejected.

by **Viewpoint** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:01 pm

kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Turkeys guarantee power continues as long as we are unable to find a solution...werent it you people who wanted to get rid of the 1960 agreements and to give Cyprus to Greece....whats changed? you are still trying to erase our rights according to the 1960 agreements and force us into minority status...

No, no. We are trying to help you come back to an internationally RECOGNIZED minority status in the RoC.

No thanks....not what we want.

by **Get Real!** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:04 pm

Flying Horse wrote:
Get Real! wrote:It’s now about the country Cyprus, not communities. Community talks and complicated arrangements are well and truly OVER mark my words.

A community can only thrive when its leaders, lead the way......putting their country first.
The rest will come later. I wouldn't be so bold as to say community talks are well and truly over, they will just take a totally different role once the whole lot is put back on the map where it belongs.

I even said that from last year and so far it looks like I was right.

Cypriot foreign policy had changed once the last talks ended as a complete waste of time, just as Papadopoulos and others predicted. The Cypriot plan is now different and appears to be a long-term multifaceted engagement of Turkey in the region.

by **Flying Horse** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:12 pm

Get Real! wrote:I even said that from last year and so far it looks like I was right.

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You don't need to be an Einstein to work it out :wink:

by **kimon07** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:12 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Did anyone bother to ask these "TCs" what security they want if not the TA and at what stage are they prepared to send them away, Im sure it would not be before a comprehensive solution has been found.

You mean the TCs who demand the withdrawal of the Turkish army??? Why the hell ask them that when it is clear that they DON"T WANT the protection of the Turkish Army and they are NOT suggesting any altarnative? Isn't it clear they trust the RoC? Besides, It's their bloody business if they want any alternative protection isn't it?? And in any case, why don't YOU ask them that question? Via a referendum to which the Anatolians will not participate? Do you dare?

They will never agree to the TA leaving unless there is an alternative within a comprehensive solution just as they showed with the AP which you rejected.

But they are already demanding it to leave. Are sick or something? Too much raki, maybe?

by **kimon07** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:13 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
kimon07 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Turkeys guarantee power continues as long as we are unable to find a solution...werent it you people who wanted to get rid of the 1960 agreements and to give Cyprus to Greece....whats changed? you are still trying to erase our rights according to the 1960 agreements and force us into minority status...

No, no. We are trying to help you come back to an internationally RECOGNIZED minority status in the RoC.

No thanks....not what we want.

Then remain for ever an unrecognized minority (with an Anatolian majority) in your own home.