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Re: tsukoui, your input please...

Postby yialousa1971 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:24 am

Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:America is a superpower because it freely allows immigration..

:lol:

Well then I expect Cyprus to be the next superpower because these days I see more immigrants than locals here!

Soon you will be voting ELAM. :wink:

ELAM promotes Greekness not Cypriotness so I doubt it.


Only a Greek can be a Cypriot. :D
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Re: tsukoui, your input please...

Postby bill cobbett » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:13 am

yialousa1971 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:America is a superpower because it freely allows immigration..

:lol:

Well then I expect Cyprus to be the next superpower because these days I see more immigrants than locals here!

Soon you will be voting ELAM. :wink:

ELAM promotes Greekness not Cypriotness so I doubt it.


Only a Greek can be a Cypriot. :D


What about toe-rags from Yialoser... can they be CY too... ???
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Re: tsukoui, your input please...

Postby Oceanside50 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:22 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:America is a superpower because it freely allows immigration..

:lol:

Well then I expect Cyprus to be the next superpower because these days I see more immigrants than locals here!


It's The EU that benefits, their example came from Uncle Sam..
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Re: tsukoui, your input please...

Postby kurupetos » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:03 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:America is a superpower because it freely allows immigration..

:lol:

Well then I expect Cyprus to be the next superpower because these days I see more immigrants than locals here!


It's The EU that benefits, their example came from Uncle Sam..

What benefit, you fool? :? How will all these uneducated, islamic fundamentalist barbarians contribute to Europe's progress? :roll:
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Re: tsukoui, your input please...

Postby tsukoui » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:24 pm

Cap wrote:Is there a strong correlation with your beloved Africa?
Ye of heightened enlightenment, shed some light and prove this man's theory wrong.

Communist Europeans averaged IQs as low as India’s.

http://sabhlokcity.com/2013/07/communis ... use-of-iq/


Cap I'm going to be philosophical. The guys argument is not something I necessarily disagree with since it is saying that IQ is dependent on conditions: poverty, freedom, nutrition etc. Indeed if you were to make IQ the basis for defining "race" then it would support my argument that East Europeans are not "White". But here is the real point. All classifications are illusions. We create them to bring order to the world. But they can be discarded. My whole thesis is that the "racial" classifications were invented by the West European imperialists and we don't need them. They are alien to Cypriots and actually cause us more harm than good. We should discard them completely and classify the world in a way that helps us. This is possible. To give you an example, it is possible to construct a mathematical system in which 1 + 1 = 3. You can do mathematics that way. The problem is that we are so entrenched in the idea that 1 + 1 = 2, and this is the philosophical point, if we fully believed that 1 + 1 = 3, not just as a mathematical game, but as reality, would reality follow suit? Would taking 1 cow and another cow result in three cows? With all my experience of schizophrenia (really just a spiritual opening that happened too fast) I honestly believe this is so. All laws are created. Philosophically we know them to be an act of belief. One has to have axioms which come from nowhere. We say they come from the world but the world itself is an illusion. Even logic is a set of assumptions. Indeed some people talk about ethno-mathematics and the hegemony of Western mathematics as something that should be challenged. Personally, maybe because I am Greek, I like Western mathematics. But they are right that it could be challenged. We could live in a world where 1 + 1 = 3, but I am not interested in challenging for that. What I am interested in challenging is the classification of "race" that the imperialists developed. I am not so sure about the classification of IQ. Is it a useful classification? "Race" is clearly to my mind a harmful classification. But IQ maybe useful. If it is linked to poverty, freedom and nutrition then it is a useful measure, for me, of how developed we are. If it is linked to skin colour then it is useless.
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Re: tsukoui, your input please...

Postby Get Real! » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:38 pm

Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
http://www.livescience.com/18132-intell ... acism.html

Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/2 ... 37796.html

Multiple Scientific Studies Confirm: Extreme Conservatism Linked To Racism And Low I.Q.
http://aattp.org/multiple-scientific-st ... d-low-i-q/
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Re: tsukoui, your input please...

Postby Oceanside50 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:53 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:America is a superpower because it freely allows immigration..

:lol:

Well then I expect Cyprus to be the next superpower because these days I see more immigrants than locals here!


It's The EU that benefits, their example came from Uncle Sam..

What benefit, you fool? :? How will all these uneducated, islamic fundamentalist barbarians contribute to Europe's progress? :roll:


They won't, the way you Europeans operate , they'll be stuck in ghettos and not assimilated.
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Re: tsukoui, your input please...

Postby RichardB » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:55 pm

tsukoui wrote:
Cap wrote:Is there a strong correlation with your beloved Africa?
Ye of heightened enlightenment, shed some light and prove this man's theory wrong.

Communist Europeans averaged IQs as low as India’s.

http://sabhlokcity.com/2013/07/communis ... use-of-iq/


Cap I'm going to be philosophical. The guys argument is not something I necessarily disagree with since it is saying that IQ is dependent on conditions: poverty, freedom, nutrition etc. Indeed if you were to make IQ the basis for defining "race" then it would support my argument that East Europeans are not "White". But here is the real point. All classifications are illusions. We create them to bring order to the world. But they can be discarded. My whole thesis is that the "racial" classifications were invented by the West European imperialists and we don't need them. They are alien to Cypriots and actually cause us more harm than good. We should discard them completely and classify the world in a way that helps us. This is possible. To give you an example, it is possible to construct a mathematical system in which 1 + 1 = 3. You can do mathematics that way. The problem is that we are so entrenched in the idea that 1 + 1 = 2, and this is the philosophical point, if we fully believed that 1 + 1 = 3, not just as a mathematical game, but as reality, would reality follow suit? Would taking 1 cow and another cow result in three cows? With all my experience of schizophrenia (really just a spiritual opening that happened too fast) I honestly believe this is so. All laws are created. Philosophically we know them to be an act of belief. One has to have axioms which come from nowhere. We say they come from the world but the world itself is an illusion. Even logic is a set of assumptions. Indeed some people talk about ethno-mathematics and the hegemony of Western mathematics as something that should be challenged. Personally, maybe because I am Greek, I like Western mathematics. But they are right that it could be challenged. We could live in a world where 1 + 1 = 3, but I am not interested in challenging for that. What I am interested in challenging is the classification of "race" that the imperialists developed. I am not so sure about the classification of IQ. Is it a useful classification? "Race" is clearly to my mind a harmful classification. But IQ maybe useful. If it is linked to poverty, freedom and nutrition then it is a useful measure, for me, of how developed we are. If it is linked to skin colour then it is useless.


Excellent reply Tsukoui , Makes complete sense to me (for a change ...me being one of the forum thickos!)
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Re: tsukoui, your input please...

Postby Cap » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:57 pm

Get Real! wrote:Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
http://www.livescience.com/18132-intell ... acism.html

Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/2 ... 37796.html

Multiple Scientific Studies Confirm: Extreme Conservatism Linked To Racism And Low I.Q.
http://aattp.org/multiple-scientific-st ... d-low-i-q/


Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism


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Re: tsukoui, your input please...

Postby Get Real! » Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:15 pm

These are funny times indeed when S.Africans are trying to capitalize on anti prejudice… :lol:
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