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Only the EU Can Save Turkey Now!

Postby Demonax » Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:39 am

It looks like after Erdogan and Davutoglu's disastrous misadventures in the Middle East, that Turkey will eventually have to look to the West and the EU to rescue them from the mess...


ERDOGAN LOOKS WEST

Although Gul is a devout Muslim, he has been exhorting Turks and the government to remain fully on course in terms of the institutional Westernization of Turkey that has been ongoing since the beginning of the 19th century. The principle current instrument for him in this regard is Turkey’s European Union perspective, which he reiterated this week during his official Eid al-Fitr message to the public, in which he also referred to the Gezi Park protests.

“It should not be forgotten that legitimate democratic reactions reflecting social expectations and objections, and which are expressed in a manner that does not disrupt the peace, are indispensible aspects of our democracy,” Gul said.
“It is vital that everyone sees this and remains focused on our promising tomorrows. We have to concentrate on large targets, such as EU membership and a new constitution, which will carry Turkey above the level of contemporary civilization,” he added, urging national solidarity...

Given Ankara’s misadventures in the Middle East, Erdogan has no choice left but to turn Turkey’s ship westward if he is to fulfill his vision of a grand Turkey based on advanced democracy. The basic parameters for this kind of democracy lie in the West, and not eastward.


Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origina ... -west.html
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Re: Only the EU Can Save Turkey Now!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:37 am

And the generous West can never resist giving a helping hand ...
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Re: Only the EU Can Save Turkey Now!

Postby Demonax » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:31 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:And the generous West can never resist giving a helping hand ...


Turkey's EU accession is going nowhere. Or haven't you noticed?

If, as Gul says, Turkey needs to get its EU accession back on track then it has the little matter of Cyprus and the Ankara Protocol to deal with before anything can happen.
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Re: Only the EU Can Save Turkey Now!

Postby B25 » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:45 am

Demonax wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:And the generous West can never resist giving a helping hand ...


Turkey's EU accession is going nowhere. Or haven't you noticed?

If, as Gul says, Turkey needs to get its EU accession back on track then it has the little matter of Cyprus and the Ankara Protocol to deal with before anything can happen.


Oh dear, is that VP is hear shitting in the back ground????
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Re: Only the EU Can Save Turkey Now!

Postby Maximus » Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:40 pm

B25 wrote:
Demonax wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:And the generous West can never resist giving a helping hand ...


Turkey's EU accession is going nowhere. Or haven't you noticed?

If, as Gul says, Turkey needs to get its EU accession back on track then it has the little matter of Cyprus and the Ankara Protocol to deal with before anything can happen.


Oh dear, is that VP is hear shitting in the back ground????


Plop plop. Its just noise until October when Gul inc. have to get off the pot. Turkeys EU accession process is going to be stopped dead in its tracks by Turkey herself..
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Re: Only the EU Can Save Turkey Now!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Aug 10, 2013 12:40 pm

Demonax wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:And the generous West can never resist giving a helping hand ...


Turkey's EU accession is going nowhere. Or haven't you noticed?

If, as Gul says, Turkey needs to get its EU accession back on track then it has the little matter of Cyprus and the Ankara Protocol to deal with before anything can happen.


Sure - all back to the status quo whereby the EU gives Turkey more and more grants and aid because it needs to be "saved".

(Sorry, I'm in a particularly cynical mood.)
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Re: Only the EU Can Save Turkey Now!

Postby Demonax » Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:32 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Sure - all back to the status quo whereby the EU gives Turkey more and more grants and aid because it needs to be "saved".


You really do sound like Viewpoint! What's wrong with you? Please stop it.
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Re: Only the EU Can Save Turkey Now!

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:45 pm

Demonax wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Sure - all back to the status quo whereby the EU gives Turkey more and more grants and aid because it needs to be "saved".


You really do sound like Viewpoint! What's wrong with you? Please stop it.


The Turks are laughing at us. Isn't that what VP has told us all along? I for one do not support any more aid to Turkey or further inclusion in EU affairs. I also think the negotiations should stop completely and an ultimatum should be given to Turkey to withdraw from Cyprus. Then the EU has to prove itself by carrying out the threat, e.g. economic sanctions etc
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Re: Only the EU Can Save Turkey Now!

Postby B25 » Sat Aug 10, 2013 1:50 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Demonax wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Sure - all back to the status quo whereby the EU gives Turkey more and more grants and aid because it needs to be "saved".


You really do sound like Viewpoint! What's wrong with you? Please stop it.


The Turks are laughing at us. Isn't that what VP has told us all along? I for one do not support any more aid to Turkey or further inclusion in EU affairs. I also think the negotiations should stop completely and an ultimatum should be given to Turkey to withdraw from Cyprus. Then the EU has to prove itself by carrying out the threat, e.g. economic sanctions etc


Amen to that, but we have as much chance of the EU doing that as we have seeing the Queen of England naked.
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Re: Only the EU Can Save Turkey Now!

Postby Demonax » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:00 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Demonax wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Sure - all back to the status quo whereby the EU gives Turkey more and more grants and aid because it needs to be "saved".


You really do sound like Viewpoint! What's wrong with you? Please stop it.


The Turks are laughing at us. Isn't that what VP has told us all along? I for one do not support any more aid to Turkey or further inclusion in EU affairs. I also think the negotiations should stop completely and an ultimatum should be given to Turkey to withdraw from Cyprus. Then the EU has to prove itself by carrying out the threat, e.g. economic sanctions etc


There you go again with your Ottoman mindset. Turkey's EU accession has stopped. Or haven't you noticed? It can't proceed without a solution on Cyprus. It's over for them otherwise. Even Turkey knows this. But for some reason, you and Viewpoint think that things can carry on as usual.

I suggest you stop reading Viewpoint's posts. You clearly think he's some kind of prophet when he's just an idiot. :roll:
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