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[repulsewarrior]

Viewpoint wrote:

even with our stolen rights we are far better off today.

erm, vp, are we witnessing a Freudian Slip?

...your, "stolen rights"?

[Flying Horse]

We didnt get what was our back then due to your morons and were always under a death threat of even more morons who wanted to give the whole island to Greece. We are far better off today than we were with you morons, look whos talking about subsidies 10 billion was it you moronic hypocrite.

Pot, and kettle.

Oh yeah, that 4.2billion + you owe Turkey, is that hiding under a rug with a load of imaginary things?

[Viewpoint]

We didnt get what was our back then due to your morons and were always under a death threat of even more morons who wanted to give the whole island to Greece. We are far better off today than we were with you morons, look whos talking about subsidies 10 billion was it you moronic hypocrite.

Pot, and kettle.

Oh yeah, that 4.2billion + you owe Turkey, is that hiding under a rug with a load of imaginary things?

Big difference we dont have to pay anything back you do. The bottom line is what you have to offer is not what we want, the current situation is far better than minority status in a GC state in our own country....no one will buy it. You really have to up the anti otherwise its business as usual.

[kimon07]

We didnt get what was our back then due to your morons and were always under a death threat of even more morons who wanted to give the whole island to Greece. We are far better off today than we were with you morons, look whos talking about subsidies 10 billion was it you moronic hypocrite.

Pot, and kettle.

Oh yeah, that 4.2billion + you owe Turkey, is that hiding under a rug with a load of imaginary things?

.........The bottom line is what you have to offer is not what we want.......

We offer NOTHING and you will get NOTHING more than what you are entitled to according to international law. A citizenship status same as all the other citizens of Cyprus regardless of ethnicity or religion etc and considering that you are the a minority you will get all the protection that the international and EU law recognizes and grants to minorities.

[Flying Horse]

We didnt get what was our back then due to your morons and were always under a death threat of even more morons who wanted to give the whole island to Greece. We are far better off today than we were with you morons, look whos talking about subsidies 10 billion was it you moronic hypocrite.

Pot, and kettle.

Oh yeah, that 4.2billion + you owe Turkey, is that hiding under a rug with a load of imaginary things?

.........The bottom line is what you have to offer is not what we want.......

We offer NOTHING and you will get NOTHING more than what you are entitled to according to international law. A citizenship status same as all the other citizens of Cyprus regardless of ethnicity or religion etc and considering that you are the a minority you will get all the protection that the international and EU law recognizes and grants to minorities.

VP? This 'you' thing....remember, I'm not Cypriot, and I don't live there. My.partner is, and my son is of descent.

So, I don't have to pay anything back! Also, you think you don't have to pay anything back? Of you can't see the price you pay for it, so be it. Keep that wool pulled over your eyes!
Kimons points, again is actually reality. That's the bottom stone cold line.....international law! Not a law unto yourself.

[Viewpoint]

Now do you see why there will never be a solution recognized or not the TRNC is a far better option than minority status among revenge seeking manipulative racist GCs. If there is a partnership deal on the table as per the UNs BBF with political equality of the 2 sides then we can talk otherwise its business as usual.

[Flying Horse]

I'm afraid I don't see racist and revengeful. I see a whole different angle to you. I see people estranged from their homeland with great sadness in their heart. No racist and revenge here from those in the UK, and I certainly haven't seen it here on this forum. The language may get colourful, and oneupmanship on the digs. Heated arguements, but nothing so extreme as to suggest such.


Racism comes from small minorities all over the world. So, what does that say?

[Viewpoint]

I'm afraid I don't see racist and revengeful. I see a whole different angle to you. I see people estranged from their homeland with great sadness in their heart. No racist and revenge here from those in the UK, and I certainly haven't seen it here on this forum. The language may get colourful, and oneupmanship on the digs. Heated arguements, but nothing so extreme as to suggest such.


Racism comes from small minorities all over the world. So, what does that say?

As you said yourself you are not a Cypriot so you cannot understand our past nor the mistrust between the 2 sides. If you cannot see the hate and animosity between the 2 sides displayed on this site then you have not been around long enough or you are blind. I would not trust the safe keep or future of my children to any of the GCs on this forum.

As for the Cypriots in the UK they are oblivious to the real situation on this island and have become watered down Cypriots as is the case in your child they are now only 50% Cypriot that will face to zero in a couple more generations your grandchildren probably wont even know where Cyprus is less alone understand the chasm that exists between the two sides.

We do not want to be a minority full stop....we are just as much indigenous to Cyprus as the GCs so we are in fact partners not just a minority as they want to force us to be.....do you now understand our viewpoint? The TRNC even in its current state is a far better option than what the GCs have to offer.

[Flying Horse]

You don't read my posts well enough VP(Try it sometime, you might learn something new). Where in them hav I said I don't see mistrust? Of course I see it, its like a big sore thumb sticking up in the air!
I said in my previous post, I don't see revengeful and racist. It'd nothing more than tit for tat insults. I'm not blind, I can see both sides, which in fact is what GCs and TCs lack. I can also give both sides their due, both are passionate about their country.

As for your insult of me not understanding....of course I do! How hard can it be to not understand and empathise with my family history of uprooting, death, displacement, land loss and upset. My family will never dilute its history, or its real country. That my friend is total twaddle on your part.


It's all a matter of perspective, and pride. Instead of continually thinking in a selfish biased sense, think out of the box, read what people other than the propaganda machine wants you to read. You may feel.peace and happiness towards your fellow men(and women)


Only the brave, can do that....and only the willing. Until you are at that stage, you won't get anywhere.

[Viewpoint]

Horse you seem to misunderstand or lack cohesion when I build or add issues onto your posts you dont have state certain words prior to me to introducing explanations when responding to your posts. You dont see revenge seeking and racist GCs because being divided it is currently at a minimum but allow the two sides to unite under a unitary state with GCs at the helm and then you will see the real face of GCs like B52, Maxi and Demon to name a few, who have no empathy towards TCs but only want to force them into minority status as a form of revenge so the can easily manipulate and discriminate against them if give the freedom to do so, thats what we want to stop and not be exposed to.

You are not your wife so in reality your empathy can only be text book level whereas your wife and her family may have suffered first hand so there is a big difference between the 2 of you. Your children will be even less Cypriot and their even less having no understanding of why Cyprus will and should remain divided. Im sorry if you feel this is an insult but its the truth, to a degree I am the same having been born and lived in the UK to Turkish Cypriots parent who were pushed out of Cyprus by the pervert makarios.

Do you appreciate the perspective that we Tcs are will to share the island under a BBF solution where both sides are equals under one international identity, where each citizen has the right to choose which administration they wish to reside under, where there are no armies and where neither side can dominate manipulate or control the other. The other perspective is to force TCs to live in a unitary state where the GCs are the indigenous population and we are forced into minority status exposed to their manipulative and racist, revenge seeking mentality against TCs.

I hope you are a person with a wide enough perspective to see where we are coming from and that we are peaceful loving people.