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[supporttheunderdog]

More fascist Crap from the shit-for-brains Nazi Loving GD....??

[GreekIslandGirl]

More fascist Crap from the shit-for-brains Nazi Loving GD....??

You're the only Nazi supporter here, happy to help them sell stolen gold to build concentrations camps.

[supporttheunderdog]

More fascist Crap from the shit-for-brains Nazi Loving GD....??

You're the only Nazi supporter here, happy to help them sell stolen gold to build concentrations camps.

The only nazi supporters here are the supporters of the excrable GD...and you for your love of Nick Griffin...

The admiration of GD leaders for Hitler and Nazi ideology is very well known.

Btw the there are a number of academics, including Aristotle Kallis, who recognise the fundamentally fascist nature of the Metaxas regime

Abstract
The 4th of August regime in Greece under Ioannis Metaxas has long been treated by theories of 'generic fascism' as a minor example of authoritarianism or at most a case of failed fascism. This derives from the ideas that the Metaxas dictatorship did not originate from any original mass 'fascist' movement, lacked a genuinely fascist revolutionary ideological core and its figurehead came from a deeply conservative-military background. In addition, the regime balanced the introduction 'from above' of certain 'fascist' elements (inspired by the regimes in Germany, Italy and Portugal) with a pro-British foreign policy and a strong deference to both the Crown and the church/religion. Nevertheless, in this chapter, I argue that the 4th of August regime should be relocated firmly within the terrain of fascism studies. The establishment and consolidation of the regime in Greece reflected a much wider process of political and ideological convergence and hybridisation between anti-democratic/anti-liberal/anti-socialist conservative forces, on the one hand, and radical rightwing/fascist politics, on the other. It proved highly receptive to specific fascist themes and experiments (such as the single youth organisation, called EON), which it transplanted enthusiastically into its own hybrid of 'radicalised' conservatism. Although far less ideologically 'revolutionary' compared to Italian Fascism or German National Socialism, the 4th of August regime's radicalisation between 1936 and 1941 marked a fundamental departure from conventional conservative-authoritarian politics in a direction charted by the broader fascist experience in Europe.

http://www.research.lancs.ac.uk/portal/en/people/aristotle-kallis(c9262f55-fcb8-4609-867e-1901bbe06f5b).html

[GreekIslandGirl]

More fascist Crap from the shit-for-brains Nazi Loving GD....??

You're the only Nazi supporter here, happy to help them sell stolen gold to build concentrations camps.

The only nazi supporters here are the supporters of the excrable GD...and you for your love of Nick Griffin...

The admiration of GD leaders for Hitler and Nazi ideology is very well known.

Btw the there are a number of academics, including Aristotle Kallis, who recognise the fundamentally fascist nature of the Metaxas regime

Abstract
The 4th of August regime in Greece under Ioannis Metaxas has long been treated by theories of 'generic fascism' as a minor example of authoritarianism or at most a case of failed fascism. This derives from the ideas that the Metaxas dictatorship did not originate from any original mass 'fascist' movement, lacked a genuinely fascist revolutionary ideological core and its figurehead came from a deeply conservative-military background. In addition, the regime balanced the introduction 'from above' of certain 'fascist' elements (inspired by the regimes in Germany, Italy and Portugal) with a pro-British foreign policy and a strong deference to both the Crown and the church/religion. Nevertheless, in this chapter, I argue that the 4th of August regime should be relocated firmly within the terrain of fascism studies. The establishment and consolidation of the regime in Greece reflected a much wider process of political and ideological convergence and hybridisation between anti-democratic/anti-liberal/anti-socialist conservative forces, on the one hand, and radical rightwing/fascist politics, on the other. It proved highly receptive to specific fascist themes and experiments (such as the single youth organisation, called EON), which it transplanted enthusiastically into its own hybrid of 'radicalised' conservatism. Although far less ideologically 'revolutionary' compared to Italian Fascism or German National Socialism, the 4th of August regime's radicalisation between 1936 and 1941 marked a fundamental departure from conventional conservative-authoritarian politics in a direction charted by the broader fascist experience in Europe.

http://www.research.lancs.ac.uk/portal/en/people/aristotle-kallis(c9262f55-fcb8-4609-867e-1901bbe06f5b).html

If this is the best that you can come up with to support your accusation that Metaxas was a "petty Hitler" then you are an idiot who made a stupid mistake and doesn't know how to retract with good grace. At the very least you are a Hitler-hypocrite who excuses the Bank of England for knowingly selling stolen gold to support the Nazis .

Here's a brief look into how another British Bank got started ...

David and Alexander Barclay were 18th century slave traders who Rodney said were ‘engaging in the slave trade… and who later used the loot to set up Barclays bank’. Today Barclays is one of the most powerful banks in the world yet its website sanitises its past role with little or no acknowledgement that its founding profits stemmed from the African slave trade.

http://pambazuka.org/en/category/features/82937

Now, before you go accusing even GD with your false imaginings, I suggest you first take care of the darkness in your soul.

[supporttheunderdog]

More fascist Crap from the shit-for-brains Nazi Loving GD....??

You're the only Nazi supporter here, happy to help them sell stolen gold to build concentrations camps.

The only nazi supporters here are the supporters of the excrable GD...and you for your love of Nick Griffin...

The admiration of GD leaders for Hitler and Nazi ideology is very well known.

Btw the there are a number of academics, including Aristotle Kallis, who recognise the fundamentally fascist nature of the Metaxas regime

Abstract
The 4th of August regime in Greece under Ioannis Metaxas has long been treated by theories of 'generic fascism' as a minor example of authoritarianism or at most a case of failed fascism. This derives from the ideas that the Metaxas dictatorship did not originate from any original mass 'fascist' movement, lacked a genuinely fascist revolutionary ideological core and its figurehead came from a deeply conservative-military background. In addition, the regime balanced the introduction 'from above' of certain 'fascist' elements (inspired by the regimes in Germany, Italy and Portugal) with a pro-British foreign policy and a strong deference to both the Crown and the church/religion. Nevertheless, in this chapter, I argue that the 4th of August regime should be relocated firmly within the terrain of fascism studies. The establishment and consolidation of the regime in Greece reflected a much wider process of political and ideological convergence and hybridisation between anti-democratic/anti-liberal/anti-socialist conservative forces, on the one hand, and radical rightwing/fascist politics, on the other. It proved highly receptive to specific fascist themes and experiments (such as the single youth organisation, called EON), which it transplanted enthusiastically into its own hybrid of 'radicalised' conservatism. Although far less ideologically 'revolutionary' compared to Italian Fascism or German National Socialism, the 4th of August regime's radicalisation between 1936 and 1941 marked a fundamental departure from conventional conservative-authoritarian politics in a direction charted by the broader fascist experience in Europe.

http://www.research.lancs.ac.uk/portal/en/people/aristotle-kallis(c9262f55-fcb8-4609-867e-1901bbe06f5b).html

If this is the best that you can come up with to support your accusation that Metaxas was a "petty Hitler" then you are an idiot who made a stupid mistake and doesn't know how to retract with good grace. At the very least you are a Hitler-hypocrite who excuses the Bank of England for knowingly selling stolen gold to support the Nazis .

Here's a brief look into how another British Bank got started ...

David and Alexander Barclay were 18th century slave traders who Rodney said were ‘engaging in the slave trade… and who later used the loot to set up Barclays bank’. Today Barclays is one of the most powerful banks in the world yet its website sanitises its past role with little or no acknowledgement that its founding profits stemmed from the African slave trade.

http://pambazuka.org/en/category/features/82937

Now, before you go accusing even GD with your false imaginings, I suggest you first take care of the darkness in your soul.

No imaginings, as i can quote and indeed already have quoted the articles that the founder of the GD wrote in praise of Hitler.

"We are the faithful soldiers of the National Socialist idea and nothing else" and "[...] WE EXIST, and continue the battle, the battle for the final victory of our people"......, "1987, 42 years later, with our thought and soul given to the last great battle, with our thought and soul given to the black and red banners, with our thought and soul given to the memory of our great Leader, we raise our right hand up, we salute the Sun and with the courage, that is compelled by our military honor and our National Socialist duty we shout full of passion, faith to the future and our visions: HEIL HITLER!"

A Philosophy that caused or contributed to the deaths of one million Greeks from 1941 to 1944 and you support their successors and Admirers?

I think a GD politico recently denied the Holocaust,seehttp://www.businessinsider.com/now-the-greek-far-right-party-is-denying-the-holocaust-2012-5

"There were no ovens -- it's a lie. I believe it's a lie. There were no gas chambers either,» Michaloliakos said in an interview with Greece's private Mega television

You thus seem to be the one overtly siding with the holocaust deniers .

See alsohttp://greece.greekreporter.com/2013/07/18/golden-dawn-mps-threaten-syriza-deputies/

What a bunch of thugs.

And I have been able to quote something, by a Greek, no less, that supports the view about the nature of the Metaxas regime.

anyway I am on topic. discussing the crimes of *ankers like the Barclay brother is not. in any event according to Aristotle Slavery was quite justifiable and by your twisted logic if it was promoted by the ancient Greeks it must be good. Bollocks! And Bollocks to the so called third Hellenic civilisation of Metaxas.

You, for your support for GD whatever soul you have is probably lost.

[Paphitis]

Metaxas can't be classified as a fascist. How could he earn that title?

He was a Military Dictatorship, probably the best leader for Greece during that time. A figure of the Conservative Military elites who undoubtedly was a very accompplished Military Officer that delivered the first allied victory in WW2.

Naturally, as a dictator, he was anti democracy, anti liberal and against Socialism. He was installed by the Greek Royal Family who feared the rise of Communism.

He was a very level headed individual as he opposed the Asia Minor campaign due to military considerations. He warned against the impending defeat, as opposed to Venizelos who had grand plans to take over most of Turkey. If Metaxas were to be in charge, Greece would still possess Asia Minor and Smyrna.

He was a Royalist. His reputation as a Germanphile is quite overstated. He studied in Germany! He had a stance of neutrality when WW2 began and there was never any evidence that he supported Hitler. In the end, Greece sided with the allies to counteract Italy's expansionism.

He introduced the 8 hour work day in Greece and formed IKA which was a system of Social Insurance.

He was no more fascist than Churchill.

Metaxas was a great leader that did many great things for Greece. Sometimes, the Greek people need a Dictator, especially during troubled times. Democracy is so over rated during such times, when the people face destruction. If anyone in Greece or any other country for that matter think their countries are 'democratic' then they better think again.

Metaxas is certainly not on the same par as GD. A conservative and decorated Military Commander can't be compared to some idiotic political thugs!

STUD, you are wrong!

[GreekIslandGirl]

Golden Dawn do not describe themselves as Neo-Nazis - why would they distance themselves from Nazis if they were Nazis and if your article, stud, was anything more than left-wing propaganda? They are an extreme-right-wing group, this they admit. As do BNP, UKIP etc and they are probably less extreme than the British Conservative party, the ones who are in power!

It's just laziness to go by the superficial resemblance of the Greek salute and Greek key - the symbols stolen by Hitler but which have been culturally Greek for thousands of years.

Besides, everyone has the right to question the Holocaust, even Jews - perhaps you need a dose of Bennett's "The History boys".

[Paphitis]

I couldn't care less if GD are fascist or any other labels such as extreme right for that matter!

They are political thugs that contribute to Greece's International ill repute, and their sloganeering and antics can be described by many as fascist! Pure and simple!

GD are not to be compared to the British Conservatives or UKIP! Since when did they admit they were 'extreme right'?

[GreekIslandGirl]

No - you are the thug who contributes to anti-Greek feelings (through ignorance based on a few holidays).

Most European countries have their own bigger and more extreme groups than Greece has. Together, left and right and center - we are making progress. All voices need to be heard.


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