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Re: 4 August 1936

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:54 pm

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supporttheunderdog wrote:Now why am I not surprised at Kuru promoting that Petty Hitler and fore-runner of the Colonels, Metaxas...

:lol: You are a complete idiot. Metaxas said OXI to the fascists and nazists in 1940.

1936-1939 was the most productive period in modern Greek history. Workers enjoyed for the first time many benefits, such as Sunday holiday, 8 hours max. work per day, support in the event of accidents at work, he organized the Social Insurance Institute and many more.

http://www.ioannismetaxas.gr/Varius/Erga4nAvgoustou.html

Now sod off, dog. :wink:
sod off your self. So much of what Metaxas organised was based upon Facist principles as expounded in Spain. Italy and Germany. Metaxas himself was known as a Germanophile. He for example had an organisation similar to the Gestapo lead by someone who was friend of Himmler. There were lots of other features that aped those sickos called the Nazis, but then I forget, GD of which you Kuru are a supporter, is a latter day pale imitation of the Nazis so the truth about Metaxas being a closet Nazi is not going to bother you, is it Kuru.

Metaxas was aiming to stay neutral, but that Facist tosser Mussulini, who under other circumstances might have been one of your heroes but for his fuck up in invading Greece, fucked up by picking a fight with Metaxas for his own personal gatification, which is really what a being a fascist tosser is all about, and all fascists are tossers.
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Re: 4 August 1936

Postby kurupetos » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:44 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:Now why am I not surprised at Kuru promoting that Petty Hitler and fore-runner of the Colonels, Metaxas...

:lol: You are a complete idiot. Metaxas said OXI to the fascists and nazists in 1940.

1936-1939 was the most productive period in modern Greek history. Workers enjoyed for the first time many benefits, such as Sunday holiday, 8 hours max. work per day, support in the event of accidents at work, he organized the Social Insurance Institute and many more.

http://www.ioannismetaxas.gr/Varius/Erga4nAvgoustou.html

Now sod off, dog. :wink:
sod off your self. So much of what Metaxas organised was based upon Facist principles as expounded in Spain. Italy and Germany. Metaxas himself was known as a Germanophile. He for example had an organisation similar to the Gestapo lead by someone who was friend of Himmler. There were lots of other features that aped those sickos called the Nazis, but then I forget, GD of which you Kuru are a supporter, is a latter day pale imitation of the Nazis so the truth about Metaxas being a closet Nazi is not going to bother you, is it Kuru.

Metaxas was aiming to stay neutral, but that Facist tosser Mussulini, who under other circumstances might have been one of your heroes but for his fuck up in invading Greece, fucked up by picking a fight with Metaxas for his own personal gatification, which is really what a being a fascist tosser is all about, and all fascists are tossers.

I'm afraid that is just your opinion, dog.

I am interested in facts and the fact is Metaxas faught against fascist Italy and was not a Germanophile because he could have collaborated with Hitler, but he didn't. You should thank Metaxas for resisting the Italians, forcing the Germans to invade Greece, thus delaying to attack the Russians and eventually losing the war.

And what makes you think the UK was any better than Nazi Germany. It was exactly the same shit. Colonialist bastards that tried to enslave all of the world. :twisted:
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Re: 4 August 1936

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:34 pm

It was an Italian mistake in taking on Greece that lead to this situation rather than any desire to take positive action on behalf of the allies on the part of Metaxas. He only fought against the Italians because they threatened to invade and he would have been finished as a leader if he had given into their demands.

We therefore have to thank the ineptitude of Mussulini for what happened in Greece.


All the rest is plainly whitewashing of the record of a Facist dictator. He was not the most evil, but his regime had many similarities with Naziism and Fascism as practiced in Italy and Germany, and to deny that is historical revisionism.
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Re: 4 August 1936

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:47 pm

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supporttheunderdog wrote:Now why am I not surprised at Kuru promoting that Petty Hitler and fore-runner of the Colonels, Metaxas...


Hey, stud, are you equally surprised to find out that whilst Metaxas was saying "OXI" to the fascists, the Bank of England was stealing Czechoslovakia's gold to help FINANCE the Nazis and their dastardly deeds?

http://www.neurope.eu/news/wire/bank-en ... akias-gold
another gig anti brit racist lie.

The Gold was controlled by an organisation called the BIS, and the BIS Which was a Swiss based central bank of central bankers told the BoE to move it, as the BOE properly did. The BOfE was not in a position to disobey an instruction of the BIS.

The people who really need questioning are those who controlled the BIS and took instructions from elsewhere which they passed on to the BoE to transfer the gold from one account to another, and the purchasers, who presumably gave some sort of value in exchange for the gold, which seems to have reached the Nazis by anther route.


Why is it a lie? Your defence of these actions is a sad sorry indictment.

The documents reveal a shocking story: just six months before Britain went to war with Nazi Germany, the Bank of England willingly handed over £5.6 million worth of gold to Hitler – and it belonged to another country.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/bank ... le....html
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Re: 4 August 1936

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:50 am

That is Something of a propagandist item which is designed to be sensationalist. You are ignoring the facts simply to suit your own small brained lack of intelligence...

The Bank of England did not move the gold of its own volition.

The Czecs deposited gold with an organisation called Bank of International Settlements. The BIS then placed it with the BoE. Under arrangements that existed the BoE most certainly owed a fiduciary duty to the BIS Which included a duty to follow the a instructions of the BIS about disposal of the Gold. Probably once it was in the hands of the BIS the Czechs could not instruct the BOE to do anything with the gold, they would have to have told the BIS what do.

However the BoE then moved the Gold on the clear instructions of the BIS, the only organisation that had the right to instruct to the BoE to move the gold. The BIS, like many Swiss banks, used a numbered accounting system. In this case the bank was told by BIS to move the Gold from one numbered account to another.

however refusal to obey the the instruction of BIS would almost certainly have been a breach of the fiduciary duty the BoE owed to the BIS and possibly constituted the tort of Conversion, ie not to move the gold on the instructions of the BIS would have been illegal.

As I say the people to question are the BIS and the holders of the numbered accounts who were involved in the movements, both the originating account and the recipient accounts which I think included the Belgian Government.
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Re: 4 August 1936

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:38 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:That is Something of a propagandist item which is designed to be sensationalist. You are ignoring the facts simply to suit your own small brained lack of intelligence....


So you are trying to excuse this. You probably deny the holocaust with the same excuses. :roll:

The original documents have been released; not a single one of any of even the most right wing sources would say it's propaganda ( whose propaganda? ). Some, like you, try and downplay the facts, but the facts speak for themselves.

The Bank of England helped in the sale of gold stolen by Nazis after the 1939 invasion of Czechoslovakia.

A document from 1950 shows the gold bars were sold by the Bank on behalf of Germany's central Reichsbank.

The details have been made public following the first stage of the digitalisation of the bank's archive.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23513654
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Re: 4 August 1936

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:09 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:That is Something of a propagandist item which is designed to be sensationalist. You are ignoring the facts simply to suit your own small brained lack of intelligence....


So you are trying to excuse this. You probably deny the holocaust with the same excuses. :roll:

The original documents have been released; not a single one of any of even the most right wing sources would say it's propaganda ( whose propaganda? ). Some, like you, try and downplay the facts, but the facts speak for themselves.

The Bank of England helped in the sale of gold stolen by Nazis after the 1939 invasion of Czechoslovakia.

A document from 1950 shows the gold bars were sold by the Bank on behalf of Germany's central Reichsbank.

The details have been made public following the first stage of the digitalisation of the bank's archive.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23513654

No I do not deny the holocaust at all.

the gold was held by the BIS and the the BoE was obliged to follow the instructions of their customer, the BIS, in how it moved the gold. I repeat the BIS was to blame.
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Re: 4 August 1936

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:25 am

BIS and BoE were intertwined - BIS was founded by the Governor of the BoE. What a sorry list of ways to excuse the Nazis and the Holocaust, stud! Both played their part in the selling of Nazi gold.

The BIS was founded in 1930, in effect by Montagu Norman and his close friend Hjalmar Schacht, the former president of the Reichsbank, known as the father of the Nazi economic miracle.

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/never- ... 41500.html

Montagu Collet Norman, 1st Baron Norman DSO PC (6 September 1871 – 4 February 1950) was an English banker, best known for his role as the Governor of the Bank of England from 1920 to 1944.
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"The documents reveal a shocking story: just six months before Britain went to war with Nazi Germany, the Bank of England willingly handed over £5.6 million worth of gold to Hitler and it belonged to another country."
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Re: 4 August 1936

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:44 am

Besides, the Bank of England only grew and grew from the proceeds of looting of the colonial countries, including Cyprus, during the rape of the world by the British empire.

I'm not saying it's alone in its dirty dealings - I'm no fan of banks and bankers, as you appear to be.

But the main thrust of this thread was derailed by you when you (erroneously) attacked Metaxas of doing something which topically, of this moment, happens to have been exactly what the Bank of England was doing at the time the Nazis gained power ( power gained with the help of the bank of England as well as via other British aristocratic connections.)
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Re: 4 August 1936

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:15 pm

I think you need to read a bit more about Hjalmar Schacht, and learn your history, as Schnacht was already a renowned banker before the rise of Hitler, (and in 1930 when the BIS was formed Hitler was not in power) the Reichsbank also being the Central German bank under the pre Hilter Weimar Republic, The policies he initiated were worthwhile policies, like road building. He never a Nazi party member, was opposed to Nazi re-arming, a wrote publically in 1935 condemning mistreatment of the jews, supported overthrowing Hitler over what happened in Czechoslovakia in 1939, and by 1939 was essentially sidelined and in 1944 ended up imprisoned by the Nazis in a concentration camp. He was later acquitted of any war crimes at Nuremberg and recognised by a Judge that “None of the civilians in the resistance did more or could have done more than Schacht actually did".
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