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[Paphitis]

These are NOT extremist politicians (Farage, Julia Gillard et al).

They are mainstream politicians who believe that immigrants must adapt to local cultural influence. Being immigrants, the people they refer to are already either British or Australian.

These politicians DO NOT use the extreme Right Wing/Fascist rhetoric of GD. Both countries adhere to strick international conventions on human rights. Gangs do not bash or verbally abuse minorities and politicians do not promote the violation of the rights of refugees requesting Asylum or protection visas. Greece tries to abide by the same conventions but GD's policy is to basically round up illegal immigrants and send them on their way. Unfortunately, it is not quite that easy. Under International Law, each case must be reviewed to see whether Asylum and protection visas are necessary. You can't for instance deport a Syrian back to Syria if the individual would face danger either from the Assad Regime or the Rebels. Assurances must be attained to guarantee the individuals safety.

This is the reason why many are incarcerated in detention centers for up to a year. They have proper legal representation and it simply takes time for all legal avenues to be exhausted. But there is a process which they themselves choose to endure.

Really sorry, but you guys are way off the mark.

The Australian politician referred to above is a Left Wing politician and is none other than the former Australian PM Julia Gillard. Aussies would say many things about their beloved Julia, most quite derogatory, but no one I think could label her as a racist. Chalk and cheese with GD. Her view is one shared by most other Left Wing politicians and also with the Right Wing. Yes immigrants must adapt and if they can't accept the Australian culture then they should consider leaving. This is non racist. It is in my opinion a reasonable way of thinking. The cointry must be respected by the newer arrivals. Fortunately, most have indeed adapted very well. It is quite fine should some Greek politicians from mainstream parties to also have the same thinking. I am sure that many do. Nothing wrong with it at all.

Countries like Australia and US have thrived due to their immigration policies since WW2. Immigration was a necessity, and the countries now have a way of life which is quite unique and interesting. It is far more interesting being in Sydney, Melbourne or New York than it is to be Athens.

The issue is GD's racist policies and hatefull rhetoric. It can't be compared to Farage, UKIP or Julia Gillard. On the same token, the views you highlighted above could quite reasonably be held by many Greek Politicians and millions of Greeks and there is nothing wrong with this.

[Paphitis]

This is a true story.

Some years ago, A Syrian Air Force MIG pilot flew into Israeli Airspace. The IAF intercepted and established communications with the "unfriendly" aircraft. They were going to shoot it down until the Syrian revealed his true intentions.

The Syrian Pilot, wanted to apply for political asylum and indicated that he will comply with IAF instructions to land immediately at an Israeli Airforce Base. He landed and applied for asylum.

The Israelis contemplated his asylum request but believed that they could not be certain for his safety at the hands of fundamentalist Jews.

Israel asks for a third country to accept the Syrian who is now Stateless. A return to Syria would not end well for him.

Australia agrees to grant him asylum. The Syrian arrives in Australia, is offered immediate employment with Australian Border Security firms flying surveillance platforms detecting illegal immigrants and other illegal activities. Now, the Syrian is a B737 pilot flying for QANTAS. He is also married with children.

How is that?

[kimon07]

These are NOT extremist politicians (Farage, Julia Gillard et al)........

Oh is that so??? Thanks for telling us. How stupid of us to think otherwise!

[kurupetos]

These are NOT extremist politicians (Farage, Julia Gillard et al)........

Oh is that so??? Thanks for telling us. How stupid of us to think otherwise!

[Paphitis]

These are NOT extremist politicians (Farage, Julia Gillard et al)........

Oh is that so??? Thanks for telling us. How stupid of us to think otherwise!

Yes that is so!

And yes, it is very stupid to think that Nigel Farage and Julia Gillard's opinions on cultural assimilation are justification for GD or are even comparable. Neither are anti immigration.

In fact, one was a PM whilst allowing massive immigration into the country and granting citizenships. There is still a labour shortage crippling big business and mining.

[supporttheunderdog]

If you were to make sheftalies out of Shistofkias’ carcass not even Turks would eat it.

I could sell them to the Anglos. They eat anything.

No we don't.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Further evidence of how FAR right the UKIP party happens to be, despite its amazing campaign to appear just right of centre.

They are re-writing history ...

A senior Ukip figure has written a history book in which he says Winston Churchill admired Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin, Poland “goaded” Nazi Germany into the 1939 invasion, and the recent child abuse scandal within the Catholic Church is “statistically negligible”.

Hugh Williams, the party’s assistant treasurer, claims his self-published 350-page work frees the study of history from the shackles of political correctness. The book — From Ur to Us, Everything you Need to Know about History — follows Ukip treasurer Stuart Wheeler’s claim last week that women should not be promoted to company boards because they are worse than men at card games, and party member Godfrey Bloom’s description of countries in receipt of foreign aid as “bongo bongo land”.

He writes that while Britain’s great wartime leader admired the German dictator and his Soviet counterpart, they did not reciprocate his feelings. The Nazi invasion of Poland in 1939 “is correctly presented as a German attack, but what is seldom mentioned is that the Poles had been goading Germany for some time, so the invasion was in part a response to the Polish aggression”.

Hitler subsequently “offered peace to the British government, but his offer was rejected”, claims Mr Williams, whose father and both grandfathers were Tory MPs, and who stood for Ukip in Plymouth and South Devon at the last election.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics ... 78174.html

[kurupetos]

If you were to make sheftalies out of Shistofkias’ carcass not even Turks would eat it.

I could sell them to the Anglos. They eat anything.

No we don't.

Of course you do, my dear mongolanglo-carnivorous creature.

[supporttheunderdog]

Who are you calling a Mongol? now sod off!

[Schnauzer]

Who are you calling a Mongol? now sod off!

It's a 'Two Pronged' attack since your dog has 'Slitty Eyes'.