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[Zarlak]

No that's not racist at all, but this is the first time you mention 'illegal immigrants.'

Your first post just says immigrants. People who want to live in your country. Like myself, I am English...

Then, coming to Cyprus you will not be an immigrant, legal or illegal. You are entitled to as an EU citizen. And welcome too.

Quite correct. The term used is "EU Nationals".

Sorry but this is wrong.

im·mi·grant
/ˈimigrənt/
Noun
A person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.

It's pure and simple. This is why a lot of people maybe called racists, because they don't understand what an immigrant is. They think that all illegal immigrants are immigrants.

The fact that I am an EU citizen doesn't mean anything. I am also an Earth citizen, but I can still immigrate to different places on Earth. I may be an EU citizen, but I will be an immigrant in Cyprus. A legal one, however.

It's when people mix illegal and legal, and they tar all immigrants with the same brush because they don't understand what an immigrant is.

[Zarlak]

I agree with Kimon that we have to follow the lead of the British Nationalists who fear for their country and culture. After all, we have suffered the most from these "illegal immigrants" (call them what you may) occupying nearly half our country and forcing our people out of their homes as well as destroying centuries-old religious heritage!

If you are referring to the British National Party they are a disgrace to our country, they are laughed at by the people of our country and ridiculed for their out of date and disgusting beliefs. They use 'fear of country and culture' as an excuse to peddle their racist beliefs when immigrants are not destroying our culture or our country. The British people cannot stand the British National Party. They are a laughing stock.

The BNP are in competition with other English Nationalist groups, the Conservatives, UKIP, NF, EDL, English Democrats, Campaign for an English Parliament, England First Party, English People's Liberation Army etc etc etc. Too many Nationalist groups - forming a huge nationalist support network. Very popular among middle Englanders.

A MORI opinion poll in 2006 commissioned by the Campaign for an English Parliament indicated that support for the creation of an English Parliament with the same powers as the existing Scottish Parliament had risen, with 41% of those questioned favouring such a move.[57]

In the same month an ICM Omnibus poll commissioned by the Progressive Partnership (a Scottish research organisation) showed that support for full English Independence had reached 31% of those questioned.[58]

In November 2006, another ICM poll, commissioned by the Sunday Telegraph, showed that support for an English Parliament had reached 68% and support for full English Independence had reached 48% of those questioned.[59]

A study conducted for the Commission for Racial Equality (CRE) in 2005 found that, in England, the majority of ethnic minority participants identified primarily as British, whereas white English participants identified as English first and British second.

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I live here. The BNP/EDL and UKIP are laughed at daily in most of our newspapers, and referred to as disgusting and vile as are the other Nationalist parties because they are racist, clueless and don't know what they are talking about. They are not 'very popular' amongst anybody in England.

Your second paragraph with your stats are misleading. It's not hard to get a 41% rise from maybe 10 people to 14.

[Zarlak]

No that's not racist at all, but this is the first time you mention 'illegal immigrants.'

Your first post just says immigrants. People who want to live in your country. Like myself, I am English and I am moving to Cyprus in October because I wish to live there. That makes me an immigrant, yet people associate 'immigrant' with 'illegal immigrant' when they are not the same thing.

So your original post basically, says you don't anybody who isn't a Cypriot in your country as if you think that this preserves your people and culture. Which is racist, as letting people in does not destroy your culture or your people. People who are actually racist, who dislike foreigners usually use this as an excuse to hide their racism.

However, from your explanations, you're now making clear what you mean which isn't what was originally posted. But this is why people call you and others like this racist, because you don't make clear you're discussing illegal immigrants which is a subject for most countries. It originally comes off like you want to close the doors to anybody none Cypriot because you believe that they destroy your culture. This is racist, but it looks like this isn't what you actually mean. But people will assume that you are ignorant or racist if you don't clarify properly what you actually mean, which is actually an issue with certain illegal immigrants, and not all because some of them work hard and fair and contribute to your country, but SOME illegal immigrants that are doing things that they shouldn't be doing.

Welcome to CF Zarlak, and we look forward to welcoming you to your new home in Cyprus!

Kimon was referring to the opposing political forces of the neo fascist Golden Dawn Party which seems to promote racism, hatred, violence against defenceless immigrants whether legal or illegal in the name of preserving Greek Heritage and Culture. They have in effect called a spade a spade because Golden dawn is racist and so are most of their supporters like kimon.

You would think they all know something. Furthermore, there is nothing Greek about these people, and it is these very hate filled values that are bringing Greece down into international ill repute. One day, the real Greeks will destroy this fundamentalist organization of terror, hate and racism and reclaim the country in order to preserve the Greek Culture of love, respect and dignity. Greece is at war because we have bogans such as a few here on this forum that have the audacity to call themselves Greek.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/1 ... 96681.html

Thank you for the welcome! Interesting post, but I would rather we see one day that instead of anybody focusing on destroying anything and reclaiming anything we just realize that we're all human, such nonsensical rivalries are quite frankly - pathetic and we all have a good time under the sun.

[kurupetos]

This is not protecting the Greek Culture but destroying it I would say.

I feel very embarrassed and ashamed!

Why? Are you Greek?

I wouldn't be surprised if Paphitis is a linobambakos like Lordo!

He is a crypto-Greek.

[GreekIslandGirl]

No that's not racist at all, but this is the first time you mention 'illegal immigrants.'

Your first post just says immigrants. People who want to live in your country. Like myself, I am English...

Then, coming to Cyprus you will not be an immigrant, legal or illegal. You are entitled to as an EU citizen. And welcome too.

Quite correct. The term used is "EU Nationals".

Sorry but this is wrong.

im·mi·grant
/ˈimigrənt/
Noun
A person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.

It's pure and simple. This is why a lot of people maybe called racists, because they don't understand what an immigrant is. They think that all illegal immigrants are immigrants.

The fact that I am an EU citizen doesn't mean anything. I am also an Earth citizen, but I can still immigrate to different places on Earth. I may be an EU citizen, but I will be an immigrant in Cyprus. A legal one, however.

It's when people mix illegal and legal, and they tar all immigrants with the same brush because they don't understand what an immigrant is.

How does that fit in with anything I said about EU Nationals?

[GreekIslandGirl]

Britain's controversial "GO HOME!" campaign ...




The Nationalist parties BNP, EDl, NF, UKIP etc etc etc ... are all decoys. The real McCoy is the Conservative Party - and they are in power.

[Smiler Brian]

If my opinion offends you you really should hear the ones I keep to myself!

[miltiades]

I differentiate between "cultures" therefore I'm a "culturalist".

I do not differentiate between races therefore I'm not a racist, A Cypriot born immigrant to the UK of G/C parentage, on embarking upon my long journey to England I was in no doubt that I was to arrive in a foreign country, I had to integrate, accept the English culture, learn the language, and always had the option to return to Cyprus if I did not like my new country.

I never considered that my own Cypriot culture was either " inferior" or " superior" to the English culture.As it turned out the two cultures were on par.

Many immigrants to the UK, from various parts of the world also felt the same way, integrating and accepting the differences between their particular home culture and that of the UK. Many did not and still do not.

Integration and acceptance of the culture of their chosen new country is a fundamental must. Don't like it, don't have to stay, back where you came from, back to your culture.

The English are an extremely tolerant sort of people, they will accept you as one of their own if indeed you make the required effort to integrate. Having lived in the UK for 52 years I can honestly say that I have NEVER felt a foreigner or even an immigrant, I joined in, I accepted the indigenous culture and kept mine for my self, did not shove it down anyone's throat, did not demand that Greek is taught at schools.

Living in the UK for more than half a century qualifies me to express opinions formulated over such a long period of time.

The immigrants who refuse to integrate, who continually denigrate our OWN culture, who make demands that their own culture ought to be accepted, forced marriages come to mind, ought to pack up and return to their beloved culture.
Long may the Western world culture survive, doubtful as it may sometimes be.

[supporttheunderdog]

Britain's controversial "GO HOME!" campaign ...




The Nationalist parties BNP, EDl, NF, UKIP etc etc etc ... are all decoys. The real McCoy is the Conservative Party - and they are in power.

Are you not a fan of Nick Griffin, the BNP, and Nigel Farage and UKIP?

Nick Griffin would go a lot further: he might even want to take away any UK citizenship you have and kick your sorry arse out of the UK as the pseudo-Nazi Elamist who post here want for some here.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Britain's controversial "GO HOME!" campaign ...




The Nationalist parties BNP, EDl, NF, UKIP etc etc etc ... are all decoys. The real McCoy is the Conservative Party - and they are in power.

Are you not a fan of Nick Griffin, the BNP, and Nigel Farage and UKIP?

Nick Griffin would go a lot further: he might even want to take away any UK citizenship you have and kick your sorry arse out of the UK as the pseudo-Nazi Elamist who post here want for some here.

I respect their right to be concerned about their culture just as we are about ours. Nick Griffin is a staunch supporter of Cyprus and has no issues with Greeks. In fact, you could learn a lot by reading about his visit to the Turkish occupied zone in Cyprus!

http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/smashing-cro ... christians

I prefer honest-speaking to the propaganda issuing from the Conservatives but of course, it is that subterfuge and hiding their real agendas which has got them into power.