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Give us back our stolen recognition and rights and then we will agree to your demands. OK?

Oh! I didn't know you had a "recognition" which we stole from you. Oh I apologise if that is the case. Yes. And how was your state/nation called at the time when we deprived it of its recognition please? And in which part of the moon was it located at? The visible or the invisible one?

Rights? Why, certainly. I take it you are ready to undertake all of your obligations as well? Retroactively since 1963? Including paying your taxes and dues and TAKING UP ARMS against the illegal occupier of your country? EH!

As soon as you give us retroactively of course all the profit you have milked from our share of recognition, scum like you are the reason why we will and should never unite you only have your greedy interests at heart, like your philosophy of the past you do not want to share you want everything for your own benefit...some things never change and your mentality proves that you are doomed to perpetuate hate and greed that will ensure continued division.

[Flying Horse]

SILENCE


Good grief....
Is it any wonder that nobody on the world stage wants to firmly take the can and place its name with solidarity and support of Cyprus and its people, if all they can do is fecking argue?

Holy Guacamole, give yourselves a break and actually look at yourselves in a mirror, children screaming 'MINE MINE MINE!!!!

[Demonax]

all the profit you have milked from our share of recognition

Stop beating yourself up about it, VP. The international community recognises the RoC. If you've got a problem take it up with Turkey who promised you your own 'state' on occupied land.

[Viewpoint]

all the profit you have milked from our share of recognition

Stop beating yourself up about it, VP. The international community recognises the RoC. If you've got a problem take it up with Turkey who promised you your own 'state' on occupied land.

demon do you know the difference between sharing and taking everything for yourselves? we are debating the fact the GCs have gotten a lot more than they lost, they have sole recognition which they have stolen from us and milked it for everything its worth...remind me why they should want a solution? they have everything they want and are doing a great job of fooling a few thousand refugees that they want a solution so they can get what they lost due to their enosis dreams.

[B25]

all the profit you have milked from our share of recognition

Stop beating yourself up about it, VP. The international community recognises the RoC. If you've got a problem take it up with Turkey who promised you your own 'state' on occupied land.

demon do you know the difference between sharing and taking everything for yourselves? we are debating the fact the GCs have gotten a lot more than they lost, they have sole recognition which they have stolen from us and milked it for everything its worth...remind me why they should want a solution? they have everything they want and are doing a great job of fooling a few thousand refugees that they want a solution so they can get what they lost due to their enosis dreams.

Yawnnnnn!

[Maximus]

SILENCE


Good grief....
Is it any wonder that nobody on the world stage wants to firmly take the can and place its name with solidarity and support of Cyprus and its people, if all they can do is fecking argue?

Holy Guacamole, give yourselves a break and actually look at yourselves in a mirror, children screaming 'MINE MINE MINE!!!!

It is embarrassing but you cant resolve differences unless you talk. The issue with this is that the Turks in Cyprus are unreasonable and Turkey maintains this argumentative solution less vacuum by continuing to occupy the northern third of the island, which allows them north of the green line to continue with their absurdity and we all get sucked in.

This is why I think a full Turkish withdrawal and a clean separation from the politics of the past is the only realistic answer. the two cant govern and build a state together, we cant even agree on what model toaster to buy. If Turkey was to withdraw and take her settlers with her, those TC's that can legitimately stay on the island can then decide by themselves if their future is in Cyprus (as an ethnic minority) or in Turkey, so we can all get on with it in peace. People on the world stage are not applying the pressure where they should and that is on Turkey to withdraw and to stop settling the north. Cyprus is too small to deal with Turkey and the problem by herself, this is another problem.

{The probability that VP is a Turkish settler is highly likely, he makes things up as he goes along, like most of them, they are not honest or credible in my opinion}

[Flying Horse]

Contrary to the bickering here politically and publically, folk forget that prior to whatever date is relevant to either side in all this....GCs and TCs lived harmoniously for many many years.

Yes, people have to talk, usually it helps when someone takes the first step, swallows a lot of pride, and offers to share a coffee and humble pie with their neighbour.
I'm a firm believer that countries meddling in others business purely for their own selfish purposes, should withdraw and leave the invaded country to its own devices, be it Turkey, or the USA/Britain in Iraq or Afghanistan. I'm a Brit that doesn't support Brit troops in far off lands for purposes of looking big on the world stage, and have my own opinions as to why they are there(which is irrelevant here)

Turkey doesn't need Cyprus, nor does it show benefit to those who it proclaims to be protecting. For a very very short period after 74 maybe, but certainly not now. I see this from an outsider looking in, so I can't take a biased stance as to who or which side is actually right.

Sure, I'd be a hypocrite to say I don't have my own personal desires for what happens to the future of Cyprus but again, you need to try and make that irrelevant when looking upon these sort of matters when it involves many people rather than yourself.

[Viewpoint]

So in short this person is saying get out of Cyprus because we want everything our own way, we do not give a shit about your rights...have you ever considered the notion that the international community is not helping you because you share the blame for the current situation in Cyprus? I am aware this is mind blowing for you but you have to first accept that the TCs are your equal, we have just as much weight as you do and that we will not give away our rights to accept becoming a minority within a revenge seeking GC state. Its a BBF with political equality of the 2 states or nothing....and from we know about you its going to be nothing.

Your only aim is to get rid of Turkey to strengthen your hand in manipulating the TCs and getting what you want which is forcing us into minority status in our own country....when will you realize we will never allow this to happen.

[Viewpoint]

Contrary to the bickering here politically and publically, folk forget that prior to whatever date is relevant to either side in all this....GCs and TCs lived harmoniously for many many years.

Yes, people have to talk, usually it helps when someone takes the first step, swallows a lot of pride, and offers to share a coffee and humble pie with their neighbour.
I'm a firm believer that countries meddling in others business purely for their own selfish purposes, should withdraw and leave the invaded country to its own devices, be it Turkey, or the USA/Britain in Iraq or Afghanistan. I'm a Brit that doesn't support Brit troops in far off lands for purposes of looking big on the world stage, and have my own opinions as to why they are there(which is irrelevant here)

Turkey doesn't need Cyprus, nor does it show benefit to those who it proclaims to be protecting. For a very very short period after 74 maybe, but certainly not now. I see this from an outsider looking in, so I can't take a biased stance as to who or which side is actually right.

Sure, I'd be a hypocrite to say I don't have my own personal desires for what happens to the future of Cyprus but again, you need to try and make that irrelevant when looking upon these sort of matters when it involves many people rather than yourself.

Horse the Gcs will shit all over us if the TA leaves, dont be fooled by their EU facade its just another way of getting rid of Turkey to do as they wish and force us TCs into minority status in a GC states. Just ask the question how many GCs support a BBF with political equality of the 2 states and you will a very loud silence.

[Maximus]

Flying Horse,

Good suggestions but this does not work.

You heard viewpoint, they wants to be "politically equal" or "political equality". In other words, they want ethnic minority rule where the vote of one TC = the vote of 5 GC's to create some ungovernable system. They also want to keep what they seized in 1974, keep Turkeys intervention "rights" intact, dissolve democracy altogether and also demand a 30% share in the GDP of the republic or whatever else they can carve 30% out of! These are their so called rights, which come at the expense of everyone else's living on the island that is not Turkish,.

There is nothing there with an ethnic minority that wants to run a dictatorship come protection racket, so they can sit on their a$$ and live on welfare off of the progressive, more productive natives.

If we don't toe the line, or think about changing this fascist system, Turkey has "legal" intervention rights to come in again and give us all another whack.