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[Get Real!]

Cyprus belongs in Europe and to the "Greeks".

What's that supposed to mean?

what do you think?

I don't know what do you think?

[Maximus]

Cyprus belongs in Europe and to the "Greeks".

What's that supposed to mean?

what do you think?

I don't know what do you think?

APPENDIX D - Part 1 - Article 2

(1) the Greek Community comprises all citizens of the Republic who are of Greek origin and whose mother tongue is Greek or who share the Greek cultural traditions or who are members of the Greek ­Orthodox Church;

(2) the Turkish Community comprises all citizens of the Republic who are of Turkish origin and whose mother tongue is Turkish or who share the Turkish cultural traditions or who are Moslems; (est. 10% of the population in 2013. An ethnic minority living in a European Union member state)

[Lordo]

i am glad you are aware of the constitution dear boy. no repeat after me. tcs are a founding nation and will never be a minority. while you are at it read the bit about the veto. it males a cracking read.

by the way your estimates are crap there is a real figure. 300 000 now put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[Maximus]

i am glad you are aware of the constitution dear boy. no repeat after me. tcs are a founding nation and will never be a minority. while you are at it read the bit about the veto. it males a cracking read.

by the way your estimates are crap there is a real figure. 300 000 now put that in your pipe and smoke it.

You would misinterpret and misunderstand the dictionary if it was given to you to read.

[kimon07]

i am glad you are aware of the constitution dear boy. no repeat after me. tcs are a founding nation and will never be a minority. while you are at it read the bit about the veto. it males a cracking read.

by the way your estimates are crap there is a real figure. 300 000 now put that in your pipe and smoke it.

You would misinterpret and misunderstand the dictionary if it was given to you to read.

I intend not to answer to them again. First they cry that they are punished and isolated and that WE don't want a solution and then they demonstrate how happy they are with what they have and where they are and that all they want is that their regime acquires the status of a severign state, with the Turkish Army and the settlers present for ever. See how proudly he tells you that they are 300.000 now? I think we should let them talk to each other.

[Maximus]

i am glad you are aware of the constitution dear boy. no repeat after me. tcs are a founding nation and will never be a minority. while you are at it read the bit about the veto. it males a cracking read.

by the way your estimates are crap there is a real figure. 300 000 now put that in your pipe and smoke it.

You would misinterpret and misunderstand the dictionary if it was given to you to read.

I intend not to answer to them again. First they cry that they are punished and isolated and that WE don't want a solution and then they demonstrate how happy they are with what they have and where they are and that all they want is that their regime acquires the status of a severign state, with the Turkish Army and the settlers present for ever. See how proudly he tells you that they are 300.000 now? I think we should let them talk to each other.

I noticed it all and they are a condemned non recognised entity but he says he is a Kypreos that is game for unification re! (obviously not)

This probably explains why they are condemned...

[kimon07]

i am glad you are aware of the constitution dear boy. no repeat after me. tcs are a founding nation and will never be a minority. while you are at it read the bit about the veto. it males a cracking read.

by the way your estimates are crap there is a real figure. 300 000 now put that in your pipe and smoke it.

You would misinterpret and misunderstand the dictionary if it was given to you to read.

I intend not to answer to them again. First they cry that they are punished and isolated and that WE don't want a solution and then they demonstrate how happy they are with what they have and where they are and that all they want is that their regime acquires the status of a severign state, with the Turkish Army and the settlers present for ever. See how proudly he tells you that they are 300.000 now? I think we should let them talk to each other.

I noticed it all and they are a condemned non recognised entity but he says he is a Kypreos that is game for unification re! (obviously not)

This probably explains why they are condemned...

From all the points of my initial post (solution proposal) all they could comment was the part about the withdrawal of the T.A. Nothing about the withdrawal of the settlers or their involvement in their lives and affairs, nothing about the formation of an international committee to draw up a new constitution, nothing about their protection by EU and NATO troops etc. If indeed, the 95% of the REAL TCs are thinking the same way well, they deserve everything they get from the Anatolians and their new "Ataturk" = Erdogan.

[Flying Horse]

The Island doesn't belong to the Greeks or the Turks, it actually belongs to Cypriots. This is where the problem lies.

However, Kimons original post on Saturday to me is a very diplomatic, and democratic proposal, rather good in fact. I'm afraid although written for intelligent people to read and think about, these people are very blinkered in their views and unfortunately with that the problem will never be solved.

They say a problem can be resolved with a second set of eyes, it helps if that second set isn't blind in the first place!

Cyprus, compared to the rest of the world who fight over territory and bomb each other daily, is relatively peaceful. They don't need Turkish troops pretending to keep the peace on behalf of a people who can't see what the real reason is. If they withdrew tomorrow I can hardly see TCs and GCs going to war and bombing each other scaring their people, tourists and economies to death. Both sides are pretty intelligent not to do so.
Turkey only holds Cyprus because its a likened to a two year old child screaming 'mine' when another child wants to play with its toy. Plain and simple 'MINE MINE MINE' stamp feet and tantrum when suggested it share.

The problem lies, in either side not willing to dip the toe to make a change.
If you don't try a change, things will never change, and in twenty years we will still be here discussing how to make things better.

Turkey(and their ulterior motives) should remove their troops, to allow the real people its supposed to represent time to be themselves and stand on their own two feet. They don't need apron strings, and they certainly don't need to hide behind the 'mothers' skirt, as all that shows is their cowardice towards 'thinking out of the box' for a solution. On the same token, the illegal settlers brought over to ethnically change the island should be removed also. TCs, and GCs are one of the same, much as you lot don't like it, they are. Mainland Turks will never be Cypriot, and have only been planted there to wipe out the small minority of TCs. No other reason, and if Lordo and co think otherwise, they aren't as intelligent as I thought they were. There is no other reason why a country would move people into a place, other than infiltrate and irradicate the people who are supposed to be there. Its sinister, and nasty. Only meant for a major underhand stake in political tactics.

[Lordo]

i am glad you are aware of the constitution dear boy. no repeat after me. tcs are a founding nation and will never be a minority. while you are at it read the bit about the veto. it males a cracking read.

by the way your estimates are crap there is a real figure. 300 000 now put that in your pipe and smoke it.

You would misinterpret and misunderstand the dictionary if it was given to you to read.

I intend not to answer to them again. First they cry that they are punished and isolated and that WE don't want a solution and then they demonstrate how happy they are with what they have and where they are and that all they want is that their regime acquires the status of a severign state, with the Turkish Army and the settlers present for ever. See how proudly he tells you that they are 300.000 now? I think we should let them talk to each other.

I noticed it all and they are a condemned non recognised entity but he says he is a Kypreos that is game for unification re! (obviously not)

This probably explains why they are condemned...

From all the points of my initial post (solution proposal) all they could comment was the part about the withdrawal of the T.A. Nothing about the withdrawal of the settlers or their involvement in their lives and affairs, nothing about the formation of an international committee to draw up a new constitution, nothing about their protection by EU and NATO troops etc. If indeed, the 95% of the REAL TCs are thinking the same way well, they deserve everything they get from the Anatolians and their new "Ataturk" = Erdogan.

I am touched am embarrassed by your compassion towards the tcs.

considering maximus just said earlier that cyprus is greek i would not share a glass of water with you never mind my country. to insist that the terkish army should leave before any peace negotiations just show how stupid you are and this will be my last post to you elambuis.

[Maximus]

The Island doesn't belong to the Greeks or the Turks, it actually belongs to Cypriots. This is where the problem lies.

However, Kimons original post on Saturday to me is a very diplomatic, and democratic proposal, rather good in fact. I'm afraid although written for intelligent people to read and think about, these people are very blinkered in their views and unfortunately with that the problem will never be solved.

They say a problem can be resolved with a second set of eyes, it helps if that second set isn't blind in the first place!

Cyprus, compared to the rest of the world who fight over territory and bomb each other daily, is relatively peaceful. They don't need Turkish troops pretending to keep the peace on behalf of a people who can't see what the real reason is. If they withdrew tomorrow I can hardly see TCs and GCs going to war and bombing each other scaring their people, tourists and economies to death. Both sides are pretty intelligent not to do so.
Turkey only holds Cyprus because its a likened to a two year old child screaming 'mine' when another child wants to play with its toy. Plain and simple 'MINE MINE MINE' stamp feet and tantrum when suggested it share.

The problem lies, in either side not willing to dip the toe to make a change.
If you don't try a change, things will never change, and in twenty years we will still be here discussing how to make things better.

Turkey(and their ulterior motives) should remove their troops, to allow the real people its supposed to represent time to be themselves and stand on their own two feet. They don't need apron strings, and they certainly don't need to hide behind the 'mothers' skirt, as all that shows is their cowardice towards 'thinking out of the box' for a solution. On the same token, the illegal settlers brought over to ethnically change the island should be removed also. TCs, and GCs are one of the same, much as you lot don't like it, they are. Mainland Turks will never be Cypriot, and have only been planted there to wipe out the small minority of TCs. No other reason, and if Lordo and co think otherwise, they aren't as intelligent as I thought they were. There is no other reason why a country would move people into a place, other than infiltrate and irradicate the people who are supposed to be there. Its sinister, and nasty. Only meant for a major underhand stake in political tactics.

OK, this is good but I maintain my position in saying that Cyprus is Greek because;

..99.999999999% of Cyprus is Greek. The names of towns, cities, villages, its heritage, etc is Greek (Turks did not found anything in Cyprus, they invaded)
..The majority of the population is Greek.

Here is another way of trying to put my point across. I am also British, I recognize England as English, I am an ethnic minority in England/Britain and the rights that have been granted to me is because of from the British Government. Britain is my country too but it is THEIR country.

Does this make sense?