Lordo wrote:maximus ...... if you cant see that terkey will not remover troops or any settlers out of cyprus before any peace agreement, we have nothing to talk about.
secondly what kind of democracy do you find acceptable. if your intention is to reduce one of the founding nations to a minority like in terkey read the comments above.
now are we going to have a serious or shall we not waste anymore time. your call.
OK Loro. Lets have some serious talk:
1. For as long as Turkey has its troops and settlers in Cyprus IT WILL NOT let any democratic agreement to be reached. And if a “solution” IS imposed on us while Turkey keeps its troops and settlers on the island and its control on the Turkish Cypriots, it will be a monstrous, non democratic, non viable solution within the general frame of the Annan Plan or even worse.
2. You are saying that Turkey will never get its troops and settlers out. What kind of a pathetic stance is that? You don’t like it but you are not ready or able to fight it? Is that what you are saying? I say that if the Turkish Cypriots form committees and organisations and start pressing the international fora to force Turkey to abide by the existing UN resolutions then the international community and the “big boys” will not be able to hide behind their finger any more and claim that Turkey is on the island because the Turkish Cypriots want it for their “protection” and in order for new clashes to be avoided. So, instead of sending delegations to Brussels to complain that you were “left out into the cold”, or asking for free trade and free use of the airport of Tymbou under the status existing today, you should rather be sending delegations everywhere around the world, to complain that because of the Turkish occupation you are suffering and you are isolated and you want this thing to stop. Maybe planting a few harmless explosive mechanisms here and there every now and then, accompanied by leaflets and announcements that they are a warning to Turkey AND the international Community would help to pass the message that the presence of Turkey leads to new instability on an EU member state which, geographically and strategically is situate in one of the most critical areas of the world???
3. You will come back with the argument (certainly VP will) that if the Turkish troops are gone before a solution is found, there is no telling what the GCs will do against the TCs. I said it before and I will repeat it. If you are really afraid of that (and frankly I would understand your reservations) demand from the UN, the EU and the USA to establish a considerable military force on the island, the main task of which will be to secure peace and order until the CY communities (and I mean ALL FIVE OF THEM) come up with a viable and democratic new constitution and for a considerable transitional period after the solution is reached i.e., until the situation is normalised and the new constitution overcomes its possible infant weaknesses.
4. Now, coming back to the solution itself: If you insist in separating the people of Cyprus to “two founding nations”, then you are starting on the wrong foot for a truly democratic and viable solution, or rather, you are directing any effort towards the dead end where Turkey wants to drive it. i.e., to the Turkish plan for two sovereign states one of which will be under the direct control of Turkey and the other one crippled and both of them with very little or none at all true sovereignty, and a central government which will not be able to take any decisions and actions on important issues unless Turkey consents to them, due to the vetoes of the Turkish Cypriot “state” which will be dictated by Turkey. A disastrous scenario for all the CY communities. Cyprus has ONE people consisting of different ethnic communities: Greek, Turkish, Armenian, Syrian (Maronite) and Latin. Why shouldn’t the other three communities be entitled to their own separate “sovereign states” also? There can not be any other solution than a new constitutional arrangement similar, lets say to the one of the USA or Switzerland. You have the internal governments strictly for internal/communal issues such as education, religion, police, local allocation of government funds etc and you have a central government which looks after the interests of ALL communities ie, of the people as a whole without discriminations of any sort. In all cases, the provisions of the constitution should be in absolute compliance with the UN resolutions about Cyprus, the International Law and the EU Laws and regulations. Under all the previous laws and regulations, the fundamental rule of the majority is a self understood MUST. Without it you DON’T have democracy, you don’t have justice and you don’t have viability of your state.
To summarise:1. Start your efforts to kick Turkey and its settlers out. You can have all the help you will need from us. Start and keep protesting against the tyranny which Turkey has imposed on your community. Deprive Turkey of its alibi to keep occupying the north of Cyprus and keep you enclaved and enslaved in it. Embarrass it and keep doing it at every opportunity. I am sure the RoC will be prepared and glad to invite you to the international fora to which it participates, to express your will towards above directions.
2. Start protesting strongly against the presence of the settlers and their interference in the affairs of your community including your internal elections.
3. Appoint delegates/specialists/advisors of your choice to form a committee with delegates from our part and with renowned foreign specialists, to work on a viable, just and democratic new constitution as defined above.
4. Start working with the R.o.C, as of tomorrow, on the normalisation of the relations of the two communities in expectation of the “new state” which will emerge.
5. If your politicians do not cooperate, ignore them and form private associations which will.
6. To make it short. Prove to the World that you want to put an end to your bondage and that you want to be equal citizens of a FREE, sovereign, united, prosperous, and democratic state.
OR SILENCE.
And let the rest of us (I mean the other four CY communities) do all the work for you, as usual.
