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Re: CY Gas resources... the next blunder perhaps?

Postby georgios100 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:07 pm

Get Real! wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
georgios100 wrote:CY Gas resources... the next blunder perhaps?

Maybe a roof will fall on your head before you get to find out. :lol:


Or your head for this matter... but we are not talking about you or me.
Nobody cares about you or me muchacho!

Sounds like our leadership will prevail... the money from the gas reserves will come rolling in... we are rich!
Why? Because we are Cypriots. Greek Cypriots! That's how we grow up... convinced we are the smartest people
on this Earth. Hell, when I was a teenager, I was walking along the Kennedy ave (Famagusta) making fun of the
foreigners, vacationing there. I though they were stupid or at least less smart than me. And it wasn't just me...
all my buddies behaved like that. I bet you felt the same... did you?

Later, when I traveled abroad, I realized I was wrong.
We are not the smartest out there, by a long shot!
That's why the AOZ situation might be the next blunder...

Your thread had no foundation on which to form a discussion so I was left free to speculate on your speculation. :lol:

And not to mention that the Gas/Oil projects will be outsourced to foreign companies so there won’t be much manual involvement by Cypriots anyway, if it makes you feel better...


A million things can go wrong mainly due to our "brilliant" politicians (hence the previous blunders...)
When I fabricate a new product, the first thing that comes to mind is... what can go wrong!
What is the worst scenario. And trust me... things will go wrong in the gas exploration.
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Re: CY Gas resources... the next blunder perhaps?

Postby georgios100 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:14 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
georgios100 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
georgios100 wrote:CY Gas resources... the next blunder perhaps?

Maybe a roof will fall on your head before you get to find out. :lol:


Or your head for this matter... but we are not talking about you or me.
Nobody cares about you or me muchacho!

Sounds like our leadership will prevail... the money from the gas reserves will come rolling in... we are rich!
Why? Because we are Cypriots. Greek Cypriots! That's how we grow up... convinced we are the smartest people
on this Earth. Hell, when I was a teenager, I was walking along the Kennedy ave (Famagusta) making fun of the
foreigners, vacationing there. I though they were stupid or at least less smart than me. And it wasn't just me...
all my buddies behaved like that. I bet you felt the same... did you?

Later, when I traveled abroad, I realized I was wrong.
We are not the smartest out there, by a long shot!
That's why the AOZ situation might be the next blunder...

Your thread had no foundation on which to form a discussion so I was left free to speculate on your speculation. :lol:

And not to mention that the Gas/Oil projects will be outsourced to foreign companies so there won’t be much manual involvement by Cypriots anyway, if it makes you feel better...


That doesn't make me feel better.

The Gas is the best thing going for Cyprus at the moment and it is a very potent political card which needs to be played very intelligently and be put to good use.

Also, it would be helpful if the RoC takes a leaf out of the UAE's book. Whatever money we get from it must be invested into projects which will generate income for the people once the resource runs out.


The UAE or Qatar is the right book to copy. We need foreign expertise in both exploration and fund management.
What the f**k does Kasimis know about gas/oil exploration? Seriously!
The CY politicians see $$$ signs for themselves first and probably crumbs for the people. Who can trust them? I know I don't.
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Re: CY Gas resources... the next blunder perhaps?

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:20 pm

Politicians won't have any control over any technical or engineering aspects of the project.

Private firms like Noble Energy and their contractors from all parts of the world will be running the show. If something happens, little responsibility will be attributable to the RoC.
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Re: CY Gas resources... the next blunder perhaps?

Postby georgios100 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 7:49 pm

Paphitis wrote:Politicians won't have any control over any technical or engineering aspects of the project.

Private firms like Noble Energy and their contractors from all parts of the world will be running the show. If something happens, little responsibility will be attributable to the RoC.


Noble Energy, Total and others can surely handle the technical aspects. I don't worry about that.
But there are political decisions to be made for a wide range of issues. Export pipelines, agreements with other countries
like Israel, Lebanon, Egypt etc. Disbursement of wealth, budgeting of CY projects and long term sustainability of CY economy.
All these and some are critical decisions. Is there a by-partisan comitee to oversee all that, regardless who wins the next elections?
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Re: CY Gas resources... the next blunder perhaps?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:13 am

georgios100 wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Politicians won't have any control over any technical or engineering aspects of the project.

Private firms like Noble Energy and their contractors from all parts of the world will be running the show. If something happens, little responsibility will be attributable to the RoC.


Noble Energy, Total and others can surely handle the technical aspects. I don't worry about that.
But there are political decisions to be made for a wide range of issues. Export pipelines, agreements with other countries
like Israel, Lebanon, Egypt etc. Disbursement of wealth, budgeting of CY projects and long term sustainability of CY economy.
All these and some are critical decisions. Is there a by-partisan comitee to oversee all that, regardless who wins the next elections?

One day at a time sweet Jesus… la la la la la la la :lol:

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Re: CY Gas resources... the next blunder perhaps?

Postby DT. » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:11 pm

georgios100 wrote:
The UAE or Qatar is the right book to copy. We need foreign expertise in both exploration and fund management.
What the f**k does Kasimis know about gas/oil exploration? Seriously!
The CY politicians see $$$ signs for themselves first and probably crumbs for the people. Who can trust them? I know I don't.


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Re: CY Gas resources... the next blunder perhaps?

Postby Demonax » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:23 pm

georgios100 wrote:CY politicians have been making mistake after mistake, staring from the 1974 invasion "invitation" to a huge "banking system", the Mari explosion and finally the "haircut" of people's money savings.

Is it wise to assume another f***up is bound to happen while "handling" our natural gas deposits?
I mean... who in his right mind can assure us 100% that things will go smoothly so we can get out of this hole we are in?


One step at a time! We don't even know how much gas is there or if there is oil as well. Once the reserves are established and there is a feasible way to extract the reserves and bring them to market, then we should be able to make sure that future generations benefit.

The Norway model has been discussed as has the Alaska model. But let's see how much is there first!
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