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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby Oceanside50 » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Even more innocent people would have been killed in a full scale allied invasion of Japan, along with many more allied troops.

Oceanside50 wrote:And let's not forget the millions upon millions that would have been killed if an invasion of Japan was needed...


Had the world agreed with this daft theory they wouldn’t have unanimously arrived at the 1949 Geneva Conventions, which I advise you both read carefully and always remember.


The Japs were warned before Hiroshima, they were warned again before Nagasaki both times they wanted to fight to the end...they gave in after Nagasaki..millions more would have died if it went on...where's your argument??...
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby Get Real! » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:19 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Even more innocent people would have been killed in a full scale allied invasion of Japan, along with many more allied troops.

Oceanside50 wrote:And let's not forget the millions upon millions that would have been killed if an invasion of Japan was needed...


Had the world agreed with this daft theory they wouldn’t have unanimously arrived at the 1949 Geneva Conventions, which I advise you both read carefully and always remember.


The Japs were warned before Hiroshima, they were warned again before Nagasaki both times they wanted to fight to the end...they gave in after Nagasaki..millions more would have died if it went on...where's your argument??...

Just read the Geneva Conventions which strictly forbid exactly what the Americans did.

You’re not allowed to warn an entire nation that unless they succumb to your demands they will all be annihilated!

To help you understand here’s a scenario closer to home:

The Turks warned repeatedly pre-74 that they would attack Cyprus. Do you think they should’ve borrowed and dropped an A-bomb from the Americans in order to “save lives” and especially that of Turkish soldiers?
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby Oceanside50 » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:22 pm

That's 1949 the bombs were dropped in 1945...no argument again

If Cyprus had 50 of them would there be Turk troops in Cyprus today ?...
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby Get Real! » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:33 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:That's 1949 the bombs were dropped in 1945...no argument again

As of 1949, nations are no longer allowed to act the way America did. It was universally condemned and outlawed and that should tell you something...

If Cyprus had 50 of them would there be Turk troops in Cyprus today ?...

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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:07 am

As of 1945 the Japanese had been engaged in an expansionist war, involving the invasion and occupation of Koreaand much of China,started in 1931, and with millions of dead. Possibly 20 million Chinese civilians died as a result of the war, as well as well over one million Chinese troops. In 1941 the Japanse extended the war to the USA and Great Britain with attacks on Singapore, Malaya and Hong Kong, which in fact occurred shortly before the attack on Pearl Harbour, and of course Pearl Harbour.

By 1945 the allies were winning but only at great cost in casualties, and knowing the war would only stop with the total defeat of Japan, where the Japanese showed no signs of surrendering despite massive military defeats in the Pacific, this would probably have meant an invasion of Japan, with more massive casualties. The allies decided that it was a case of fuck the Japs, lets save our troops' lives. Yes it was nasty. It was however war.
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby Mikiko » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:07 am

You dont drop atomic bombs to muder innocent civilians women and childeren who had nothing to do with policies. In fact this is what the evil USA have done . The targeted innocent civilians women children in Japan to take revenge of their defeat . Lets not forget the thousands of civilians that have been murdered brutally by the axis of EVIL USA and UK in other parts of the world at their path of finding weapons of mass destruction . Until now no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq.

Japan has not started any war for decades . Its only the axis of evil US and UK that have commited the most barbaric attrocities on this universe. In fact Japan is has an article in its constitution :

Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution is a clause in the National Constitution of Japan outlawing war as a means to settle international disputes involving the state. The Constitution came into effect on May 3, 1947, following World War II


There is no such article in either constitution of US or UK which shows clearly to the whole world who the barbarians are . Japans always leads with actions Unlike US and UK who only rules by coruption and empty words.
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby Paphitis » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:45 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Even more innocent people would have been killed in a full scale allied invasion of Japan, along with many more allied troops.

Oceanside50 wrote:And let's not forget the millions upon millions that would have been killed if an invasion of Japan was needed...


Had the world agreed with this daft theory they wouldn’t have unanimously arrived at the 1949 Geneva Conventions, which I advise you both read carefully and always remember.


Bollocks my man!

It was a military decision to avoid a costly full scale invasion resulting in the death of 1,000,000 plus allied troops, Jap troops and civilians over many months, and quite possibly many years.

They chose to deliver the knock out punch more efficiently and more humanely than the former option.

You, having served in the military should understand these concepts of leadership and the greater good and be able to make dificult decisions.

After 6 years of fighting the Japs, Australia and America had enough and were looking for a speedy end.
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby Paphitis » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:54 am

Get Real! wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:That's 1949 the bombs were dropped in 1945...no argument again

As of 1949, nations are no longer allowed to act the way America did. It was universally condemned and outlawed and that should tell you something...

If Cyprus had 50 of them would there be Turk troops in Cyprus today ?...

If my grandmother had a big dick she would slap you silly.


Even in this day and age, if there was a war between let's say, US and China, I very much doubt America will want to invade this superpower. It will do the same thing under similar circumstances.

Both countries have these destructive weapons and that is not illegal. To have these ICBMs, means by default that under certain circumstances (hopefully we will never see these scenarios), they could be used!

Yes, America was asking for the unconditional surrender that almost obliterated the US, China, SE Asia and Australia. They started it and they lost, just!
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby Paphitis » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:34 am

Mikiko wrote:You dont drop atomic bombs to muder innocent civilians women and childeren who had nothing to do with policies. In fact this is what the evil USA have done . The targeted innocent civilians women children in Japan to take revenge of their defeat . Lets not forget the thousands of civilians that have been murdered brutally by the axis of EVIL USA and UK in other parts of the world at their path of finding weapons of mass destruction . Until now no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq.

Japan has not started any war for decades . Its only the axis of evil US and UK that have commited the most barbaric attrocities on this universe. In fact Japan is has an article in its constitution :

Article 9 of the Japanese Constitution is a clause in the National Constitution of Japan outlawing war as a means to settle international disputes involving the state. The Constitution came into effect on May 3, 1947, following World War II


There is no such article in either constitution of US or UK which shows clearly to the whole world who the barbarians are . Japans always leads with actions Unlike US and UK who only rules by coruption and empty words.


Yes you do drop the A bomb. There was really no choice. Already, millions of civilians had been killed and an invasion would mean many more and no guarantee of victory on their soil.

An unconditional surrender was necessary to disable Japan's means of waging war.

Get Real,

Here is a scenario closer to home.

You are the commander of 1,000 CNG troops. The CNG has advanced to Pentadaktilos with the Turkish Army holding the key high ground near a small settlement of 500 civilians which they are using as a human shield. Israel has offered air support to remove the Turkish threat to valuable Gas reserves.

Your orders are to take the village and the Turkish command posts.

However, you ponder that a full scale attack on the Turkis positions could result in the decimation of your unit!

What will you do?

1) Attack the Turkish positions and the village in order to save civilian lives, or
2) request ground strikes from the IAF on key Turkish positions and the adjacent village before advancing further.
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby Get Real! » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:22 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:The allies decided that it was a case of fuck the Japs, lets save our troops' lives. Yes it was nasty. It was however war.

Thanks to the Geneva Conventions the coward's way of mass murdering civilians so as to “win” a war elsewhere, is no longer allowed.
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