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[Paphitis]

GR, my boy, you and I have been in disagreement previously....but right now, in response to this, I have to say that you rock!

The problem with you and Get Real is that you both lack the ability to think outside the square. You lack the revolutionary thought processes to solve problems and issues and because of this you need mythology and mysticism becsuse only that will give you hope for a better tomorrow.

I will give you an example. If Israel integrated Palestinians within the Israeli State, made them citizens with equal rights and provide for them by offering food, shelter, education, health care, jobs, careers and freedom to move and have property rather than displace them, then there would be no need for a 2 State solution and after a generation or 2, they would become proud Israelis serving the country in the IDF even rather than lobbing rockets into Israeli towns.

So the solution is to make me Israel's next PM! After I declare war on Turkey, I will systematically solve the Palestinian Question by integrating those poor souls into Israel thus solving a very big headache for the country.

Let me know and I shall pack my bags for Tel Aviv.

[miltiades]

Paphitis you let out the hard cash mate.
Give them all a million US dollars, they, after becoming FREE and equal citizens, will revert to their current state.

The Arab awakening will only begin when they stop praying and continually praising a non existent God.

Take a look at Egypt, they god rid of Mubarak, they got rid of Morsi, now they are getting rid of each other. God is indeed Great!

As for Syria, Libya, Mali and other third world theocratic nations, there is no hope for as long as they praise a non existent God.

[Linichka]

"The problem with you and Get Real is that you both lack the ability to think outside the square. "
Paphitis, I suggest that it is you who cannot think outside the square, by dismissing religion as mythology. This is to claim that the universe is strictly limited to that which can be perceived only by our crude five senses.

[Paphitis]

"The problem with you and Get Real is that you both lack the ability to think outside the square. "
Paphitis, I suggest that it is you who cannot think outside the square, by dismissing religion as mythology. This is to claim that the universe is strictly limited to that which can be perceived only by our crude five senses.

Theists are so predictable always returning to the same arguments. You always say that Man can't understand the universe or the powers of the higher authority and this gives you a licence to make it up as you go along.

Science has come a long way and has discovered what created the universe, but then the theist thesis evolves to who created pre matter. It is the most classical case of musical chairs.

I don't dismiss the minute possibility of a Higher Being anymore than I dismiss the small possibility of extraterrestial aliens within the vast universe. Science has not ruled this out. It is looking for alien life forms from mere bacteria on Mars to something vastly more evolved into an intelligent life form.

You are free to believe what you want. As for me, it is not just my 5 senses but thousands of years worth of Scientific discoveries and progress which you seem to dismiss by changing the goal posts all the time.

You give me the evidence and I will believe. I forgot, unlike Science you have exempted yourselves from the same scrutiny because Science will never evolve to explain things concerning our very existence.

Convenient!

[Get Real!]

Paphitis, you shouldn’t worry too much because you’re in that group of people that God will accept and won’t judge too harshly due to your diminished responsibility.

[Cap]

Excellent thread. Worthy of seminars.

[miltiades]

"Afghanistan Bomb Kills 14 Members Of Single Family During Eid Al-Fitr Celebration "
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/0 ... _ref=world

Can anyone deny that these people are barbaric savages ?

" The family gathered to mark the start of a major Muslim holiday, the Eid al-Fitr at the end of the holy month of Ramadan, with a visit to the tomb of a relative. In Afghanistan, it is customary for families to visit the graves of loved ones on holiday occasions."

Yet such an horrific act did not even get a mention in the Western press.
I suppose we have come to accept that these people have not the slightest respect for life, either their own or of others.

"The attack took place in Nangarhar province's Ghany Khel district and all 14 killed – seven women and seven children –"

[supporttheunderdog]

Milti, Not sure how well this link works but the criminal savage event was very widely reported about 2 to 3 days ago, including by the Washington post, the Guardian, the BBC, etc.

Otherwise yes, it was a savage attack.

Some complain ( quite rightly) about civilian deaths caused by eg the British and US Military in Afghanistan, but in fact far more civilian deaths there are caused by the Taliban, and the general issue of Moslem on Moslem deaths in The never ending Shia v Sunni conflict appears to be overlooked, just as are black on black killings in the USA, which represent a disproportionate amount of murders in the USA. thousands of Moslems have been killed in Iraq. There was another series of bombings in the past day, now being widely reported in the press.

I think it shows that the killers are not following a true faith, founded by a 7th century peadophile...

I am always sceptical about people who have conversations with god, except on the great white telephone...

https://www.google.com.cy/search?q=pakistan+cemetery+bombing&oq=pakistan+cemetary+bombing&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-US&espv=1#bav=on.2,or.&ei=ozMHUuXhIYWUtAb_84DADw&espv=1&fp=d78da8440441eca1&hl=en-US&q=pakistan+cemetery+bombing&sa=N&start=30

[miltiades]

I have stated many a time that having seen the light I reject all that is believed by billions of people the world over.
More so in the light of gruesome barbaric acts by stern believers in the myth of a creator.

My god IS humanity, science, philanthropists, people involved in the procurement of comfort for the less well off,
the Real Angels here on earth who look after the sick and infirm , the volunteers who devote their lives to those in need.

Having experienced first hand the goodness of these Angels how on earth could I take remotely seriously a faith that preaches by its acts that the sanctity of life is useless.

I'm not deriding a particular faith, but any faith that its followers commit premeditated, indiscriminate, inhumane barbaric and savage acts against innocent people.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Can anyone deny that these people are barbaric savages ?

This accusation coming a few days after the anniversaries of the nuclear bomb attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which killed over a quarter of a million innocent people, is hard to stomach.