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[Get Real!]

Imagine a neighbor who keeps bragging that he can build a super spaceship yet he cannot fix his broken down 20 year old car! Wouldn’t you laugh at him?

That’s exactly how our so called “scientists” (read idiots) are behaving! They cannot even tackle a simple primitive disease like cancer, yet they want to have a go at the universe!

They are so pitiful and stupid and I’m sure God is laughing at them.

[Paphitis]

This watchmaker design thesis has a number of flaws whereas Science has given us a massive insight as to how the universe came to be.

Science (read humans) is presenting you with theories (SPECULATION) but you don’t have to buy them!

Fools like Stephen Hawking can only hypothesize and write about it so he can make a good living through the sale of books. He may also throw some complex calculus in his pages to give it a “scientific” feel knowing that 99.99% of the world’s population won’t be able to test it for its relevance or accuracy anyway!

They are all shenanigans who are clueless about what’s out there but that doesn’t stop them from daydreaming and writing about their fantasies to earn a living.

Like I said before… humans must first prove themselves by solving their VERY BASIC AND PRIMITIVE earthly issues before tackling celestial matters!

You should DEMAND from them to first SOLVE that which they can touch and see to prove themselves and forget about that which they cannot reach.

That's absolutely nonsense!

Science has never ventured to disprove any God theories but sadly religion, particularly the fundamentalist types such as some of the religions found in the US Bible Belt do try to wage an all out campaign to ridicule and mock many tested and proven Scientific Facts.

Science is knowledge based on testable theories which then become scientific fact once they past muster.

Science is not a Philosophy or some man made theory or myth.

You are always going on about Greek Mythology but it seems you have a few myths of your own to help you get through life. Whatever floats your boat!

[miltiades]

Your attempt to seperate God from religion is most unhelpful. Even in the days of Christ, his followers were men and Christ himself was a fallable Man.

The entire notion of seeking forgiveness will reward the believer with eternal life is flawed. In other words, it is ok to murder, rape and pillage. It is ok to treat people badly as long as you repent.

Kind of a free licence to be a bad person with a manopoly get out of jail free card if you look skywards and seek forgiveness.

You show me a population of people that look at the stars and universe like you do and identify this with God or a higher power!

The reason atheists like your self love to link God with religion is because it gives them all the ammunition they need to denounce God but I take that away from them and it makes them upset!


But anyway, it’s VERY EASY to test the existence of God with simple common sense:

The vastness and complexity of the universe alone is enough evidence for me that a supernatural power is behind it. Period.

Note that there’s no need for me to tackle the minor religious issues you've raised (take it up with a priest) because like I said… it’s man made and has nothing to do with God.

I don't have an issue with your belief or faith. I am not trying to prove you wrong or convince you that there is no God. As long as you remain a nice person, then that is good enough for me.

I can only respect your spiritual needs and requirements. It is such a personal thing.

But you are jumping all over the place. And you called me an Atheist which is probably my fault as I self confessed it on this forum a while ago. I am pretty firm as a non believer, however I can't be a 100%, so a more true definition is Agnosticism even if so slight.

I am a scientist Get Real. I continuously learn my craft of Physics as we speak. Never stopped learning new things in a highly specialised small segment of Physics. I don't know a great deal about evolution, pre-matter or the big bang theory, but in my area of Physics, humanity has achieved extraordinary feats which are mind boggling.

I put my faith in Science because it is tangible. For me it is this that makes common sense not some unproven theories and mysticism.

That is all that matters, other than being the best person I can be towards my family, friends and strangers. I don't need some institution to tell me how to behave, what to believe in order to gain acccess to the Kingdom of God for all eternity.

A quick research will show that the nations with the lowest literacy rates are also the most religious, as well as the most violent, cruel, inhumane.
Take Afghanistan, Mali, Niger, Pakistan, Siera Leone, Somalia, South Sudan and many more nations deeply religious. Surely this tells the researcher something. The more religious and fanatical about religion a nation is the higher the level of illiteracy.Eradicate illiteracy, educate these people and religion becomes less important in their lives.

As Paphitis wrote, in years gone by the Cypriots were much more religious than they are today. Education, education and more education has demoted their need for religion.

Unlike Paphitis, I'm trillions of percent convinced that there is no creator. Never existed. Hawkins is considered universally as one of the most brilliant scientist of modern times, until of course GR calls him a fool!!!

Stephen Hawking, one of the most brilliant theoretical physicists in history yet to GR he is a ....fool !!!

FOLKS, THERE IS NO GOD , TAKE IT FROM MILTIADES !!
But there are real tangible angels on earth, they talk, they walk, they do not perform illusionary miracles, but they are real angels. I met quite a few.

[Paphitis]

Imagine a neighbor who keeps bragging that he can build a super spaceship yet he cannot fix his broken down 20 year old car! Wouldn’t you laugh at him?

That’s exactly how our so called “scientists” (read idiots) are behaving! They cannot even tackle a simple primitive disease like cancer, yet they want to have a go at the universe!

They are so pitiful and stupid and I’m sure God is laughing at them.

[Get Real!]

Imagine a neighbor who keeps bragging that he can build a super spaceship yet he cannot fix his broken down 20 year old car! Wouldn’t you laugh at him?

That’s exactly how our so called “scientists” (read idiots) are behaving! They cannot even tackle a simple primitive disease like cancer, yet they want to have a go at the universe!

They are so pitiful and stupid and I’m sure God is laughing at them.

Congratulations!

You have now explored 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the universe.




NB: Actually a lot less but I can't be bothered infinitely typing zeros!

[Get Real!]

Stephen Hawking, one of the most brilliant theoretical physicists in history yet to GR he is a ....fool !!!

I would love to publicly confront that mangled little weasel and make him cry like a two year old.

[Paphitis]

Imagine a neighbor who keeps bragging that he can build a super spaceship yet he cannot fix his broken down 20 year old car! Wouldn’t you laugh at him?

That’s exactly how our so called “scientists” (read idiots) are behaving! They cannot even tackle a simple primitive disease like cancer, yet they want to have a go at the universe!

They are so pitiful and stupid and I’m sure God is laughing at them.

Congratulations!

You have now explored 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the universe.

The universe is so vast, it can't be explored that easy but humanity has mapped out a great deal of it.

Right now, humans are traveling all over the globe in a matter of hours, and this is a great achievement among many others in other areas such as medicine and technology and so forth.We have satellites which can pin point our position to within 1m (military) and 10m (civil).

Sorry GR!, but your Azteca star gazing and mysticism takes a back seat to NASA I'm afraid!

[Get Real!]

The universe is so vast, it can't be explored that easy but humanity has mapped out a great deal of it.

Which computer is it that can handle infinite mapping?



There’s not enough disk storage space on this planet to fit the universe!

[Get Real!]

I think Paphitis has insider information on the next version of Google Earth that will let you traverse around the universe!

[Paphitis]

I think Paphitis has insider information on the next version of Google Earth that will let you traverse around the universe!

Don't be bloody ridiculous!

http://hubblesite.org/the_telescope/

http://coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu/cosm ... tsee.shtml

Bottom line is, all you can offer is some weird mystical theories, and some mythology, whilst humanity has achieved a great deal more than that!