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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:30 pm

Get Real! wrote:How is it that they are “ignorant and arrogant” when they do NOT challenge God by pretending to know the universe, and they simply humble themselves to an obvious higher authority?

You should direct your anger at ignorant fools like Stephen Hawking who think they can explain that which they have never seen! :lol:


Oh God! :roll:

Humble away and leave the rest of us alone!
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby potassium » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:
potassium wrote:They are ignorant for having no actual thing to back them up and by having no real knowledge on how things they stated god does, work.

:? Weird English...


They are arrogant for refusing (some) to accept legitimate evidence that happens to disprove some parts of their religion (Big bang, evolution, Higgs boson particle, etc etc).

Legitimate evidence? Big bang? :lol: And you call THEM ignorant? :lol:

I do not see how Stephen Hawkings and religious figures connect. Stephen Hawkings seeks for answers and tries to explain phenomenons we have no explanation for.

Stephen Hawking should stick to finding a cure for his primitive earthly disease first before tackling matters that are clearly above and beyond him.

You’d think that anyone who claims that they can explain aspects of the universe should be able to overcome a primitive earthly disease within a week! :lol:


Sorry if my English is not perfect, I am still in high-school.

Big bang is a well tested theory (search CERN) which if you are able to understand high-school physics and what quantum physics are, then you are able to have an idea of what it is and how it works. Apparently you were not really good at school, weren't you?

Stephen Hawking's cure for his disease is not from his field and I believe at this phase, it's too late for someone to find a cure for him. Stephen Hawking is a physician not a biologist/doctor.
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby Cap » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:38 pm

Religion has NEVER contributed anything tangible to the human race.


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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby tsukoui » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:43 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:How is it that they are “ignorant and arrogant” when they do NOT challenge God by pretending to know the universe, and they simply humble themselves to an obvious higher authority?

You should direct your anger at ignorant fools like Stephen Hawking who think they can explain that which they have never seen! :lol:


Oh God! :roll:

Humble away and leave the rest of us alone!


Is Get Real fighting a losing battle? The Cyprus problem was never about religion. Now in this climate, not only do we have to transmute the "racial" conflict which has be forced on us but the hegemonic powers are sowing religious discontent as well! Cypriots understood that the Koran had a simple message "teach your ego to surrender" everything else is just tradition. As to those who use the Koran to justify violence, they should ask themselves is it their ego that is motivating them or are they really surrendering to the will of Allah?
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:13 pm

Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Yes, but the "hope and comfort" they get is not for this life.

Ergo, God does not give hope and comfort that things will be well in this life, only in the afterlife.

We created the idea that things can only get better when we die. :?

People pray and hope that God will somehow help them and they are comforted by this act.

What's so complicated about this?


If someone loses a loved one, they are comforted by the "knowledge" (aka hope) that they will meet again in the afterlife. Living on Earth, in a spiritual way, is about coping with the suffering. The suffering only ends when one dies and goes to heaven.
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby miltiades » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:16 pm

Why is it, I ask my self, that the most religious nations on earth are also the ones with the highest numbers of illiteracy, the poorest,underdeveloped and violent too.

Sudan: Roughly two million people have died as a result of war, famine and disease , during the last two years!

Syria : Estimates of deaths in the Syrian civil war, per opposition activist groups, vary between 78,515[1][2] and 100,191.[3] On 24 July 2013, the United Nations put out an estimate of over 100,000 that had died in the war.[4]

Iraq : Source Casualties Time period
Associated Press 110,600 violent deaths March 2003 to April 2009
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby Cap » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:37 pm

miltiades wrote:Why is it, I ask my self, that the most religious nations on earth are also the ones with the highest numbers of illiteracy, the poorest,underdeveloped and violent too.

Sudan: Roughly two million people have died as a result of war, famine and disease , during the last two years!

Syria : Estimates of deaths in the Syrian civil war, per opposition activist groups, vary between 78,515[1][2] and 100,191.[3] On 24 July 2013, the United Nations put out an estimate of over 100,000 that had died in the war.[4]

Iraq : Source Casualties Time period
Associated Press 110,600 violent deaths March 2003 to April 2009



U.S. is most religious in industrialized world

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/fa ... igiou.html

God bless America
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby kurupetos » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:50 am

Cap wrote:
miltiades wrote:Why is it, I ask my self, that the most religious nations on earth are also the ones with the highest numbers of illiteracy, the poorest,underdeveloped and violent too.

Sudan: Roughly two million people have died as a result of war, famine and disease , during the last two years!

Syria : Estimates of deaths in the Syrian civil war, per opposition activist groups, vary between 78,515[1][2] and 100,191.[3] On 24 July 2013, the United Nations put out an estimate of over 100,000 that had died in the war.[4]

Iraq : Source Casualties Time period
Associated Press 110,600 violent deaths March 2003 to April 2009



U.S. is most religious in industrialized world

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/fa ... igiou.html

God bless America

Yes, their God is money. It's on their bank notes. :wink:
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby kurupetos » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:52 am

potassium wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
potassium wrote:They are ignorant for having no actual thing to back them up and by having no real knowledge on how things they stated god does, work.

:? Weird English...


They are arrogant for refusing (some) to accept legitimate evidence that happens to disprove some parts of their religion (Big bang, evolution, Higgs boson particle, etc etc).

Legitimate evidence? Big bang? :lol: And you call THEM ignorant? :lol:

I do not see how Stephen Hawkings and religious figures connect. Stephen Hawkings seeks for answers and tries to explain phenomenons we have no explanation for.

Stephen Hawking should stick to finding a cure for his primitive earthly disease first before tackling matters that are clearly above and beyond him.

You’d think that anyone who claims that they can explain aspects of the universe should be able to overcome a primitive earthly disease within a week! :lol:


Sorry if my English is not perfect, I am still in high-school.

Big bang is a well tested theory (search CERN) which if you are able to understand high-school physics and what quantum physics are, then you are able to have an idea of what it is and how it works. Apparently you were not really good at school, weren't you?

Stephen Hawking's cure for his disease is not from his field and I believe at this phase, it's too late for someone to find a cure for him. Stephen Hawking is a physician not a biologist/doctor.

Big Bang theory is based on the Bible. Read both and compare. :wink:
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Re: BARBARIC SAVAGE ATTACK IN PAKISTAN

Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun Jul 28, 2013 1:45 am

Gods and religion are both man made. Gods first appeared as an anthropomorphic personification of natural phenomena that early man (I will not use the phrase primitive) could not understand, so we had eg weather gods and fertility gods, etc. Now we know more, through science,
Religion was the codification of belief, frequently to the benefit of power holders who claimed a relationship with the gods or god, and who promoted themselves as the representatives of the gods on Earth, which gave them authority to rule: an offence against them was an offence against god. See eg what happens in Iran today.

There might be some creator, who one might call a god, but I very much doubt that if it exists, it, whatever characteristics it might have, will be anything like that described in any religious books, like the Bible or Koran as the god of those books is a human invention.
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