B25 wrote:T-Mac wrote:Greece and Turkey are the root of all evil in Cyprus.
We all hate them so much as Cypriots!
The only Guarantor Power that CAN be trusted, is the UK I'm afraid! At least they aren't full of nonsense!
If they both left, You would see changes, almost immediately... Most likely positive changes, there would be progress on the island and I'm sure a solution would pop up as well.... As long as they are involved, the closest we will get is making proposals as the "UN delegates" have done over the past century or so....
Why do you keep bringing Greece into this???? You are just trying to justify Turkeys existence. Greece has been out of the picture since '74, can't say the same about Turkey can we???
As for the UK, yeah pull the other one, they are responsible for you MFs here in the first place.
Cyprus does not need ANY guarantors powers, we just need people to respect international laws.
...says he, who broke all international laws and attacked the defenseless Turkish Cypriots killing and injuring thousands and more than a thousand "missing civilians" (taken as POW!) on record since then! That was when Cyprus was left alone with her own laws and means. SO! Where was your "International laws" then?
Lets admit it the likes of you who want Cyprus to be left completely on its own i.e. at the mercy of a majority GC population, is so that you can bring in the mainland Greek settlers and using force replace the TCs by them instead! NO THANKS! But you are so blind by your desires and hatred that you live a fantasy rather than what may actually happen in practice. Allow me to introduce you to reality;
1. You could not finish off the TCs back in 1963 when TCs had no army and had to defend themselves using handful of men in remote enclaves. You had the full control of the National Guard backed up by armed EOKA (B?) members as well as the support of the mainland Greek Forces running around trying to kill anything TC in their path and you still could not do it! It took many months before the UN intervened and even then the Eoka was very clever in attacking selective villages and areas away from the UN sights - who in fact acted more as tourists than peace-keepers.
2. The other half of the reason was; great majority of the GC population during 1963-4 era were the more civilized and honorable people, who did not want to murder civilian men women and children just because they were TCs. Most of the Greek villages as well as some mixed ones had learned to exist peacefully with the TCs, trading with each other and getting on with their everyday life. Mixed marriages started to become more and more likely over the 3 years of republic. The least of their concern was union with Greece! In fact During 1960s - before and after 1963 - Cyprus had a much higher standard of life than Greece and Turkey put together.
As a TC my father was the Chief Commander of police for Kyrenia region (Greek & Turkish mixed) during 1963, just before the troubles started - his driver was a Greek policeman, the same GC policemen helped him escape from prison after he was taken prisoner by the EOKA members raiding the police station during a meeting - It was the happiest day of my life as a 7 year old when I recognized my half bearded father come out of the police jeep after not hearing from him for almost a month! And the GC police driver whom I recognized just smiled and padded me on the head! Both GC and TC policemen in the force respected and loved my father - because he was a true Cypriot who never discriminated, and always worked for the good of all Cypriot people. Him being the commander in that area at the time assured there was not a single shot fired between GCs and TCs! In fact, it must be on record that Girne region was the only part where TCs and GCs caried on living as though nothing had happened when people were shooting at each other all over the island.
Going back to the 2 points raised above,
1. Now that the TCs have their own army of 4000 or so men and annually updated auxillaries numbering well over 10,000 equipped with latest guns plus probably another 30,000 able bodied men who completed their military service and who would be called upon if attacked- Add to that, they are not in separate isolated pockets now but have a frontier to defend against potential enemy;
2. Now that even more number of GCs are not interested in any more wars with TCs but rather settle for the Cypriot identity and see the land free of any outside interference or domination
What chance in hell do you have of bringing your fantasies to life? Talk is cheap reh! Blabber away what you like here, but it will not get further than the threads in this forum!
GreekIslandGirl wrote:He must have an RoC passport then.
Yes I do have a Cypriot passport and an ID - as a born Cypriot whose ancestry goes back to more than 4 centuries in Cyprus please allow me the satisfaction of having my own country's passport
It’s all in your head. For starters there’s no such thing as a “hellenic nation” but plain vanilla boring old Greece and we have nothing in connection with them other than hollow talk.
