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Re: Give Famagusta back!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:32 am

stpier wrote:Land should be given in return for what?

In response to international law as dictated under:

UN Security Council Resolution 353 (1974)
http://www.refworld.org/cgi-bin/texis/v ... 658&skip=0

UN Security Council Resolution 541 (1983)
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_Na ... lution_541


You lost a war and the loser faces the consequences. No land will be given, forget it.

Only problem is we didn’t lose a war to Turkish Cypriots, and in any case international law applies not your personal opinion.
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Re: Give Famagusta back!

Postby stpier » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:19 am

Get Real! wrote:
stpier wrote:Land should be given in return for what?

In response to international law as dictated under:

UN Security Council Resolution 353 (1974)
http://www.refworld.org/cgi-bin/texis/v ... 658&skip=0

UN Security Council Resolution 541 (1983)
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_Na ... lution_541


You lost a war and the loser faces the consequences. No land will be given, forget it.

Only problem is we didn’t lose a war to Turkish Cypriots, and in any case international law applies not your personal opinion.


You have been saying this for 40 years and no one can force Turkey to act the way you like. This is pretty much your war against Turkey and you are alone in this. Even Greece lost hope so get over it, no land will be given unless you make some serious compromises.
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Re: Give Famagusta back!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:20 pm

stpier wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
stpier wrote:Land should be given in return for what?

In response to international law as dictated under:

UN Security Council Resolution 353 (1974)
http://www.refworld.org/cgi-bin/texis/v ... 658&skip=0

UN Security Council Resolution 541 (1983)
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_Na ... lution_541


You lost a war and the loser faces the consequences. No land will be given, forget it.

Only problem is we didn’t lose a war to Turkish Cypriots, and in any case international law applies not your personal opinion.


You have been saying this for 40 years and no one can force Turkey to act the way you like. This is pretty much your war against Turkey and you are alone in this. Even Greece lost hope so get over it, no land will be given unless you make some serious compromises.

There will be no compromises with criminals. Nothing less than the 100% liberation of Cypriot territory is acceptable so the struggle against Turkey continues slowly but surely destroying her from the inside out. Kurdistan will be realized as part of her punishment.
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Re: Give Famagusta back!

Postby stpier » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:39 pm

Get Real! wrote:
stpier wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
stpier wrote:Land should be given in return for what?

In response to international law as dictated under:

UN Security Council Resolution 353 (1974)
http://www.refworld.org/cgi-bin/texis/v ... 658&skip=0

UN Security Council Resolution 541 (1983)
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_Na ... lution_541


You lost a war and the loser faces the consequences. No land will be given, forget it.

Only problem is we didn’t lose a war to Turkish Cypriots, and in any case international law applies not your personal opinion.


You have been saying this for 40 years and no one can force Turkey to act the way you like. This is pretty much your war against Turkey and you are alone in this. Even Greece lost hope so get over it, no land will be given unless you make some serious compromises.

There will be no compromises with criminals. Nothing less than the 100% liberation of Cypriot territory is acceptable so the struggle against Turkey continues slowly but surely destroying her from the inside out. Kurdistan will be realized as part of her punishment.


Your slow struggle has not given an inch of land back until now and I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel for you strugglers.
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Re: Give Famagusta back!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:53 pm

stpier wrote:Your slow struggle has not given an inch of land back until now and I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel for you strugglers.

Our struggle hasn’t only been the obvious global political campaign but also an aggressive support of Turkey’s enemies and predominantly the PKK.

Ask Turkey how much she has suffered and will continue to suffer at our hands…

We have agents delivering and training in the region of the future Kurdistan, student agents in Turkish universities, agents in the occupied area, and so forth. It’s been another massive expense for the republic.
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Re: Give Famagusta back!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:20 pm

Talking of agents…

One of our better known and most successful agents active in the late 80s to early 90s was Theofilos Georgiadis who for years was the backbone of the PKK. In fact without him the PKK would’ve been finished long ago. Eventually in 1994 he was gunned down by the MIT right here in Cyprus. A month later we paid back in kind by taking out two of their agents.

Here’s a picture of Ocalan with a poster of Theofilos on the wall prior to Ocalan’s capture. (1998?)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4V7Xgg36Buc/U ... greece.jpg

And here’s a picture of Theofilos himself.

theofilos-georgiades(2).jpg


http://toklysma.weebly.com/uploads/5/3/ ... 52.jpg?538

NB: These are now old and well known stories by all and sundry.
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Re: Give Famagusta back!

Postby stpier » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:34 pm

Get Real! wrote:
stpier wrote:Your slow struggle has not given an inch of land back until now and I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel for you strugglers.

Our struggle hasn’t only been the obvious global political campaign but also an aggressive support of Turkey’s enemies and predominantly the PKK.

Ask Turkey how much she has suffered and will continue to suffer at our hands…

We have agents delivering and training in the region of the future Kurdistan, student agents in Turkish universities, agents in the occupied area, and so forth. It’s been another massive expense for the republic.


Is this the script of your new comedy movie? You are capable of doing NOTHING. The conclusion is: no land back.
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Re: Give Famagusta back!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:45 pm

stpier wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
stpier wrote:Your slow struggle has not given an inch of land back until now and I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel for you strugglers.

Our struggle hasn’t only been the obvious global political campaign but also an aggressive support of Turkey’s enemies and predominantly the PKK.

Ask Turkey how much she has suffered and will continue to suffer at our hands…

We have agents delivering and training in the region of the future Kurdistan, student agents in Turkish universities, agents in the occupied area, and so forth. It’s been another massive expense for the republic.


Is this the script of your new comedy movie? You are capable of doing NOTHING. The conclusion is: no land back.

Your view-window of the Cyprus Problem is limited to the immediate past and the immediate future and you thus arrive at absolute conclusions over disputed land, but our plan is long term and far more complex than your foreign brain can imagine.
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Re: Give Famagusta back!

Postby stpier » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:53 pm

Get Real! wrote:
stpier wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
stpier wrote:Your slow struggle has not given an inch of land back until now and I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel for you strugglers.

Our struggle hasn’t only been the obvious global political campaign but also an aggressive support of Turkey’s enemies and predominantly the PKK.

Ask Turkey how much she has suffered and will continue to suffer at our hands…

We have agents delivering and training in the region of the future Kurdistan, student agents in Turkish universities, agents in the occupied area, and so forth. It’s been another massive expense for the republic.


Is this the script of your new comedy movie? You are capable of doing NOTHING. The conclusion is: no land back.

Your view-window of the Cyprus Problem is limited to the immediate past and the immediate future and you thus arrive at absolute conclusions over disputed land, but our plan is long term and far more complex than your foreign brain can imagine.


So none of us will see a Greek Cyprus for the rest of our lives with this pace of change you anticipate. It's perfectly fine to see you suffer from the consequences of your actions in the immediate past.
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Re: Give Famagusta back!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:01 pm

stpier wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
stpier wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
stpier wrote:Your slow struggle has not given an inch of land back until now and I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel for you strugglers.

Our struggle hasn’t only been the obvious global political campaign but also an aggressive support of Turkey’s enemies and predominantly the PKK.

Ask Turkey how much she has suffered and will continue to suffer at our hands…

We have agents delivering and training in the region of the future Kurdistan, student agents in Turkish universities, agents in the occupied area, and so forth. It’s been another massive expense for the republic.


Is this the script of your new comedy movie? You are capable of doing NOTHING. The conclusion is: no land back.

Your view-window of the Cyprus Problem is limited to the immediate past and the immediate future and you thus arrive at absolute conclusions over disputed land, but our plan is long term and far more complex than your foreign brain can imagine.


So none of us will see a Greek Cyprus for the rest of our lives with this pace of change you anticipate. It's perfectly fine to see you suffer from the consequences of your actions in the immediate past.

Hopefully we will NEVER see a Greek Cyprus or a Turkish Cyprus for that matter, but a Cypriot Cyprus as it should be.

As to the when we’ll just have to wait and see because like I said we're in it for the long haul and we are well dug in because for us it’s not just a matter of a contemporary political dispute but that of a 2,000 year old religious dispute against Islam.

Cyprus is a very important part of the Cradle of Civilization and the birth of Christianity so it’s a lot more complex than initially meets the eye.
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