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15th of july

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Re: 15th of july

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:36 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:this is nonsense and you know it. the threat from terkey was over in months. action could have been taken agains murders in the next 40 years. it goes back to civilisation. what kind of civilisation allows known murderers not only not to be punished but make them mps and ministers.


Only a pea brain would come up with conclusions like that.

The threat from Turkey continues to this day. 180,000 people can't get to their homes, 37% is occupied illegally by Turkish Troops which even threaten our National Resources, the cultural and historical heritage of the island is being altered and destroyed and you're telling me that Makarios should prosecute a few Coupists and polarize the RoC into civil oblivion and with the possibility that more people might be killed from civil disobedience and chaos.

My my you are a clever cog!

No Lordo, what Makarios did was graceful and very civilized and he did it for the greater good rather than seek vengeance!


Are you for real? the man was a pervert and hated TCs, now how can you think that he wanted to unite the two sides...he had enough time to find middle ground but he alienated the TCs and pushed them into fighting back with taksim. He was the worst leader ever.
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Re: 15th of july

Postby Paphitis » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:53 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:this is nonsense and you know it. the threat from terkey was over in months. action could have been taken agains murders in the next 40 years. it goes back to civilisation. what kind of civilisation allows known murderers not only not to be punished but make them mps and ministers.


Only a pea brain would come up with conclusions like that.

The threat from Turkey continues to this day. 180,000 people can't get to their homes, 37% is occupied illegally by Turkish Troops which even threaten our National Resources, the cultural and historical heritage of the island is being altered and destroyed and you're telling me that Makarios should prosecute a few Coupists and polarize the RoC into civil oblivion and with the possibility that more people might be killed from civil disobedience and chaos.

My my you are a clever cog!

No Lordo, what Makarios did was graceful and very civilized and he did it for the greater good rather than seek vengeance!


Are you for real? the man was a pervert and hated TCs, now how can you think that he wanted to unite the two sides...he had enough time to find middle ground but he alienated the TCs and pushed them into fighting back with taksim. He was the worst leader ever.


The TCs alienated themselves!

Now, you have a boot camp and nothing more.

We have the lot, and all the international recognition. The RoC would be mad to compromise this.
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Re: 15th of july

Postby Oceanside50 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:26 am

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Lordo wrote:so allow the murderes to from free. has any other civilised and democratic country in the history of the world ever done this. i think not. perhaps groc is not as democratic and civilised as you elamb boys believe.


It's not quite as simple as that. I think you would be hard pressed to find a civilised democracy illegally partitioned like Cyprus is.

Makarios decided that this was by far the biggest issue that the people need to face and fight against as a united people under extreme threat. In the end he had to somehow mend the divisions and that was not going to happen if he confronted the Coupists who had their supporters. The biggest disaster was the illegal and barbaric invasion which prevents Cypriots from returning to their homes. It is they that are the bigger criminals that have escaped justice.



You may have some good points about Makarios but there were people killed during the coup and subsequent 5 days leading up to the invasion more were killed and not too long ago it wasn't even widely acknowledged. For instance when Denktash said about 15 years ago that some of the missing were killed during the coup, the government (ROC) brushed it aside.
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Re: 15th of july

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:59 am

Paphitis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:this is nonsense and you know it. the threat from terkey was over in months. action could have been taken agains murders in the next 40 years. it goes back to civilisation. what kind of civilisation allows known murderers not only not to be punished but make them mps and ministers.


Only a pea brain would come up with conclusions like that.

The threat from Turkey continues to this day. 180,000 people can't get to their homes, 37% is occupied illegally by Turkish Troops which even threaten our National Resources, the cultural and historical heritage of the island is being altered and destroyed and you're telling me that Makarios should prosecute a few Coupists and polarize the RoC into civil oblivion and with the possibility that more people might be killed from civil disobedience and chaos.

My my you are a clever cog!

No Lordo, what Makarios did was graceful and very civilized and he did it for the greater good rather than seek vengeance!


Are you for real? the man was a pervert and hated TCs, now how can you think that he wanted to unite the two sides...he had enough time to find middle ground but he alienated the TCs and pushed them into fighting back with taksim. He was the worst leader ever.


The TCs alienated themselves!

Now, you have a boot camp and nothing more.

We have the lot, and all the international recognition. The RoC would be mad to compromise this.


Exactly you have hit it right on the head to why there will never be a solution they have every everything they want why share for the sake of the refugees, this has always been my theory thank you for supporting it.
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Re: 15th of july

Postby Maximus » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:25 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:this is nonsense and you know it. the threat from terkey was over in months. action could have been taken agains murders in the next 40 years. it goes back to civilisation. what kind of civilisation allows known murderers not only not to be punished but make them mps and ministers.


Only a pea brain would come up with conclusions like that.

The threat from Turkey continues to this day. 180,000 people can't get to their homes, 37% is occupied illegally by Turkish Troops which even threaten our National Resources, the cultural and historical heritage of the island is being altered and destroyed and you're telling me that Makarios should prosecute a few Coupists and polarize the RoC into civil oblivion and with the possibility that more people might be killed from civil disobedience and chaos.

My my you are a clever cog!

No Lordo, what Makarios did was graceful and very civilized and he did it for the greater good rather than seek vengeance!


Are you for real? the man was a pervert and hated TCs, now how can you think that he wanted to unite the two sides...he had enough time to find middle ground but he alienated the TCs and pushed them into fighting back with taksim. He was the worst leader ever.


The TCs alienated themselves!

Now, you have a boot camp and nothing more.

We have the lot, and all the international recognition. The RoC would be mad to compromise this.


Exactly you have hit it right on the head to why there will never be a solution they have every everything they want why share for the sake of the refugees, this has always been my theory thank you for supporting it.


Your idea of sharing viewpoint actually impedes, shackles and debases the Greek Cypriots and dilutes them in a 'unified' republic.

This is a huge risk for the Greek Cypriots and many steps backwards.
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Re: 15th of july

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:37 am

Why do we have to pay the price with our rights for gcs have the freedom to do as they wish using their numerical advantage, we are equal partner why should we take a step backwards? today is far more attractive than what you are offering thats why you do not see a flood of tcs moving south.
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Re: 15th of july

Postby Flying Horse » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:05 am

Those that these murders touch, never forget.

My late father in laws brother was shot in front of his family, they say by his own people.
We don't forget.

Today is the 10th anniversary of my late father in laws passing. He fought for his country in the troubles, but passed away before they opened the crossing in 2003. I don't think he ever went back to his true home land. Sad really. Very sad.


Bickering pales into significance sometimes.
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Re: 15th of july

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:41 am

Why should we force a union when clearly neither side wants it?
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Re: 15th of july

Postby Flying Horse » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:57 am

Viewpoint wrote:Why should we force a union when clearly neither side wants it?



A lot can be said for the old saying

'You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink'

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Re: 15th of july

Postby DT. » Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:59 am

Flying Horse wrote:Those that these murders touch, never forget.

My late father in laws brother was shot in front of his family, they say by his own people.
We don't forget.

Today is the 10th anniversary of my late father in laws passing. He fought for his country in the troubles, but passed away before they opened the crossing in 2003. I don't think he ever went back to his true home land. Sad really. Very sad.


Bickering pales into significance sometimes.


Why was he shot ?
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