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Re: Zimmerman not guilty

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:51 am

I was climbing up a mountain-path
With many things to do,
Important business of my own,
And other people's too,
When I ran against a Prejudice
That quite cut off the view.

My work was such as could not wait,
My path quite clearly showed,
My strength and time were limited,
I carried quite a load;
And there that hulking Prejudice
Sat all across the road.

So I spoke to him politely,
For he was huge and high,
And begged that he would move a bit
And let me travel by.
He smiled, but as for moving! --
He didn't even try.

And then I reasoned quietly
With that colossal mule:
My time was short -- no other path --
The mountain winds were cool.
I argued like a Solomon;
He sat there like a fool.

Then I flew into a passion,
and I danced and howled and swore.
I pelted and belabored him
Till I was stiff and sore;
He got as mad as I did --
But he sat there as before.

And then I begged him on my knees;
I might be kneeling still
If so I hoped to move that mass
Of obdurate ill-will --
As well invite the monument
To vacate Bunker Hill!

So I sat before him helpless,
In an ecstasy of woe --
The mountain mists were rising fast,
The sun was sinking slow --
When a sudden inspiration came,
As sudden winds do blow.

I took my hat, I took my stick,
My load I settled fair,
I approached that awful incubus
With an absent-minded air --
And I walked directly through him,
As if he wasn't there!

Charlotte Perkins Gilman
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:01 am

And a note of sanity from the beautiful Alice Walker (author of The Color Purple):



Trayvon Martin, one more among so many black men killed in my lifetime

I feel the grief of all people who love fairness and justice. But George Zimmerman has his own conscience to reckon with.

I deliberately watched none of the Zimmerman trial, just as I have deliberately not read a draft of a new book by Jen Marlowe and others, soon to be published: I Am Troy Davis, about a young black man in Georgia who was, by all indications, innocent of any crime – but was put to death recently by the state. News of these deaths, of Troy, of Trayvon, is so painful that I protect myself in this way.

So many killings of black men in my lifetime. The physical shock is astounding.

I write this, remembering that when Martin Luther King Jr was assassinated in 1968, the shock to my system was so severe I lost the child I was carrying. This shock, this assault on the psyche and body, is what is intended.

That, too, is painful, though we may feel glad not to be, ourselves, so cruel and sadistic. I feel the grief of all people who love fairness and justice coursing through my body, deep into my soul. We are united in our suffering. Being aware of this helps.

Contemplating Zimmerman's exoneration for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin in a letter to a friend yesterday, I wrote this, with a few thoughts added today:

Just heard the Zimmerman verdict. It makes me think of the man given the "pleasure" of assassinating Che Guevara. He was young, and it was his birthday. He was strutting and proud to be offered this "work", as Che stood bleeding, weakened and alone, before him.

Fast forward to recently, when the assassin became old and ill and needed surgery – and Cuban doctors (who loved Che Guevara) did their best to heal him.

The ache of realization, of what he has done, when it comes for Zimmerman, will be all the punishment he will ever deserve. I remember now, with understanding, that our parents used to say, about things they regretted they had done and that they got away with: "I'd rather take a whipping …"

Zimmerman will wish many times in his life that they had given him 100 years
.





http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... men-killed
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty

Postby bsharpish » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:30 pm

So she didn't watch any of the trial ..... Heard none of the evidence and then imparts her pearls of wisdom on Zimmerman.
Then has the effrontery to compare a hoodie wearing, weed smoking, lean slurping youth who has a previous history of questionable behaviour with ( not that I agreed with his politics) internationally renown figure like Che or a great man of conscience like MLK.
If Barry Obama had kept his mouth shut this case would have been as relevant as the 1000's of other gun killings that occur in America every year.

Instead we have a media trying to pander to the civil rights/white angst brigade by attempting to beatify trayvon and paint Zimmerman as a monster ..... Not because its the truth, rather, because it suits them and keeps the news cycle rolling
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:43 pm

bsharpish wrote:So she didn't watch any of the trial ..... Heard none of the evidence and then imparts her pearls of wisdom on Zimmerman.
Then has the effrontery to compare a hoodie wearing, weed smoking, lean slurping youth who has a previous history of questionable behaviour with ( not that I agreed with his politics) internationally renown figure like Che or a great man of conscience like MLK.
If Barry Obama had kept his mouth shut this case would have been as relevant as the 1000's of other gun killings that occur in America every year.

Instead we have a media trying to pander to the civil rights/white angst brigade by attempting to beatify trayvon and paint Zimmerman as a monster ..... Not because its the truth, rather, because it suits them and keeps the news cycle rolling


Alice didn't watch the trial, but that doesn't mean she didn't hear/read any of the evidence. Probably no one here watched the trial either, but some have decided it was justified for gun-carrying Zimmerman to shoot-to-kill an unarmed teenager.

As the poem says ... Prejudice!
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:52 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
bsharpish wrote:So she didn't watch any of the trial ..... Heard none of the evidence and then imparts her pearls of wisdom on Zimmerman.
Then has the effrontery to compare a hoodie wearing, weed smoking, lean slurping youth who has a previous history of questionable behaviour with ( not that I agreed with his politics) internationally renown figure like Che or a great man of conscience like MLK.
If Barry Obama had kept his mouth shut this case would have been as relevant as the 1000's of other gun killings that occur in America every year.

Instead we have a media trying to pander to the civil rights/white angst brigade by attempting to beatify trayvon and paint Zimmerman as a monster ..... Not because its the truth, rather, because it suits them and keeps the news cycle rolling


Alice didn't watch the trial, but that doesn't mean she didn't hear/read any of the evidence. Probably no one here watched the trial either, but some have decided it was justified for gun-carrying Zimmerman to shoot-to-kill an unarmed teenager.

As the poem says ... Prejudice!



Since the teenager jumped on Zimmerman and had him on the ground.. What if the teen grabbed the gun and shot Zimmerman ? Why isn't that a consideration?...
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty

Postby Paphitis » Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:56 pm

The media has obviously turned this into something it is not. The catch phrase is, "if it bleeds, it leads". Throw in US gun control debate and the right to stand your ground, as well as race, you have the ingredients of a front page bar line.

Obviously, the court and jury heard all the evidence, ballistics and testimonies and concluded it was an act of self defence!

Case closed!
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty

Postby Oceanside50 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:15 pm

That's the culture in the USA ...

Rednecks with their pickups have bumper stickers in Greek
Letters "ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ".. Gun lovers new motto.

And t shirts too
http://www.cafepress.com/+molon+t-shirts
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty

Postby potassium » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:38 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:Florida's "stand your ground law", which basically states if youre threatened you can defend yourself.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... d/2517507/


if zimmerman's case was not self defense then there is no such thing as self defense.
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty

Postby potassium » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:43 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:
bsharpish wrote:So she didn't watch any of the trial ..... Heard none of the evidence and then imparts her pearls of wisdom on Zimmerman.
Then has the effrontery to compare a hoodie wearing, weed smoking, lean slurping youth who has a previous history of questionable behaviour with ( not that I agreed with his politics) internationally renown figure like Che or a great man of conscience like MLK.
If Barry Obama had kept his mouth shut this case would have been as relevant as the 1000's of other gun killings that occur in America every year.

Instead we have a media trying to pander to the civil rights/white angst brigade by attempting to beatify trayvon and paint Zimmerman as a monster ..... Not because its the truth, rather, because it suits them and keeps the news cycle rolling


Alice didn't watch the trial, but that doesn't mean she didn't hear/read any of the evidence. Probably no one here watched the trial either, but some have decided it was justified for gun-carrying Zimmerman to shoot-to-kill an unarmed teenager.

As the poem says ... Prejudice!



Since the teenager jumped on Zimmerman and had him on the ground.. What if the teen grabbed the gun and shot Zimmerman ? Why isn't that a consideration?...


the teen tried to grab the gun but zimmerman reached it first according to zimmerman himself.
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Re: Zimmerman not guilty

Postby potassium » Tue Jul 16, 2013 3:45 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
bsharpish wrote:So she didn't watch any of the trial ..... Heard none of the evidence and then imparts her pearls of wisdom on Zimmerman.
Then has the effrontery to compare a hoodie wearing, weed smoking, lean slurping youth who has a previous history of questionable behaviour with ( not that I agreed with his politics) internationally renown figure like Che or a great man of conscience like MLK.
If Barry Obama had kept his mouth shut this case would have been as relevant as the 1000's of other gun killings that occur in America every year.

Instead we have a media trying to pander to the civil rights/white angst brigade by attempting to beatify trayvon and paint Zimmerman as a monster ..... Not because its the truth, rather, because it suits them and keeps the news cycle rolling


Alice didn't watch the trial, but that doesn't mean she didn't hear/read any of the evidence. Probably no one here watched the trial either, but some have decided it was justified for gun-carrying Zimmerman to shoot-to-kill an unarmed teenager.

As the poem says ... Prejudice!


i watched parts of the trial when it was live
i'd love to see how you would react when a teenager who was hitting your head on the ground and beating you up and you only had a gun to defend yourself.
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