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Re: northern Cyprus – a mafia ‘state’

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:12 am

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Are you for real? you want Turkey to go an leaving us exposed to morons like yourself..youd love that wouldnt you....noway we dont want them to go until a solution is found.


If we follow your logic then you must realise there can be no solution which allows for injustice and resentment on the ground. That would be very dangerous for the remaining TCs on the island. As you say, the Turkish army won’t be around after a solution and I'm sure you don’t want to live amongst a resentful majority population where you are obliged to live in enclaves protected by foreign troops and checkpoints. So to feel completely safe you must consider what would satisfy the GCs who will be the overwhelming majority on the island. After all, we want a peaceful solution not a tense stand-off.

Saying that, if the Turkish army and settlers were to leave tomorrow, my guess is that would be the solution and there would follow a peaceful transition to democracy - much to your dismay!


Exactly Demonax.

The solution must satisfying everyone's needs and the objection Viewpoint raises has been included in my repatriation back to Turkey plan.

.... You will have the protection of the Turkish army viewpoint
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Everyone's needs have been met.



Now I know you are stupid, we are natives who will never leave this island, get over it.
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Re: northern Cyprus – a mafia ‘state’

Postby Maximus » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:15 am

But your not natives VP.
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Re: northern Cyprus – a mafia ‘state’

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:20 am

Maximus wrote:But your not natives VP.


We are, we have just as much right to be here as you do, so seeing you wanted to turn Cyprus into Greece you can fuck off to that country.
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Re: northern Cyprus – a mafia ‘state’

Postby Demonax » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:25 am

Viewpoint wrote:we are natives who will never leave this island, get over it.


Many ‘natives’ have left already, Viewpoint. There is a thread elsewhere about how Turkey is effectively wiping out the TCs from the island. The newcomers who Turkey brings to replace them are not ‘natives’. Therefore your comment is misleading and self-delusional.

Many many Turkish Cypriots have already left this island. Numbers are dwindling and with it any Turkish Cypriot legacy or bond. It might not worry you, but it should. It makes TC claims to the island very weak and tenuous if the population in the occupied areas no longer consists of ‘native’ TCs.
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Re: northern Cyprus – a mafia ‘state’

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:31 am

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Viewpoint wrote:we are natives who will never leave this island, get over it.


Many ‘natives’ have left already, Viewpoint. There is a thread elsewhere about how Turkey is effectively wiping out the TCs from the island. The newcomers who Turkey brings to replace them are not ‘natives’. Therefore your comment is misleading and self-delusional.

Many many Turkish Cypriots have already left this island. Numbers are dwindling and with it any Turkish Cypriot legacy or bond. It might not worry you, but it should. It makes TC claims to the island very weak and tenuous if the population in the occupied areas no longer consists of ‘native’ TCs.


450 years enough for you? we are here no worries even if there was only one left it would not mean that we are any less a partner or have less rights than you. Anyway its irrelevant as the north is evolving in a different direction, union at this stage is not even an option we are closer to becoming part of Turkey than we are uniting with our arch enemy. This is the solution everone deserves.
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Re: northern Cyprus – a mafia ‘state’

Postby Maximus » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:01 am

Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:we are natives who will never leave this island, get over it.


Many ‘natives’ have left already, Viewpoint. There is a thread elsewhere about how Turkey is effectively wiping out the TCs from the island. The newcomers who Turkey brings to replace them are not ‘natives’. Therefore your comment is misleading and self-delusional.

Many many Turkish Cypriots have already left this island. Numbers are dwindling and with it any Turkish Cypriot legacy or bond. It might not worry you, but it should. It makes TC claims to the island very weak and tenuous if the population in the occupied areas no longer consists of ‘native’ TCs.


450 years enough for you? we are here no worries even if there was only one left it would not mean that we are any less a partner or have less rights than you. Anyway its irrelevant as the north is evolving in a different direction, union at this stage is not even an option we are closer to becoming part of Turkey than we are uniting with our arch enemy. This is the solution everone deserves.


450 years? where did you come from? This doesn't make you a native and this should not offend either.

why are you not natives of Egypt as well? or natives to Syria or Iraq or Israel or to Lebanon and all the other former lands which the ottomans conquered? I am sorry VP but the Ottoman empire collapsed a long time ago and the Ottoman 'natives' were repatriated back to modern day Turkey. This is the home for the Turks in the modern age.

The theft of northern Cyprus is a recent event and the transplants that have moved over from Turkey since then are certainly not 'natives'.
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Re: northern Cyprus – a mafia ‘state’

Postby Demonax » Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:45 am

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450 years enough for you? we are here no worries even if there was only one left it would not mean that we are any less a partner or have less rights than you. Anyway its irrelevant as the north is evolving in a different direction, union at this stage is not even an option we are closer to becoming part of Turkey than we are uniting with our arch enemy. This is the solution everone deserves.


Partner or arch-enemy? I wish you’d make up your mind. It’s like dealing with a schizo. :roll:
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Re: northern Cyprus – a mafia ‘state’

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:01 pm

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450 years enough for you? we are here no worries even if there was only one left it would not mean that we are any less a partner or have less rights than you. Anyway its irrelevant as the north is evolving in a different direction, union at this stage is not even an option we are closer to becoming part of Turkey than we are uniting with our arch enemy. This is the solution everone deserves.


Partner or arch-enemy? I wish you’d make up your mind. It’s like dealing with a schizo. :roll:


This is what is being asked of us a partnership with our arch enemy (examples littered all over this forum).
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Re: northern Cyprus – a mafia ‘state’

Postby Demonax » Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:37 pm

Viewpoint wrote:This is what is being asked of us a partnership with our arch enemy (examples littered all over this forum).


But you are the one who insists your rights derive from this partnership under the Cyprus Republic. It therefore follows that having withdrawn from this partnership you have lost your rights - as you have discovered.
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Re: northern Cyprus – a mafia ‘state’

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:13 pm

Demonax wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:This is what is being asked of us a partnership with our arch enemy (examples littered all over this forum).


But you are the one who insists your rights derive from this partnership under the Cyprus Republic. It therefore follows that having withdrawn from this partnership you have lost your rights - as you have discovered.


The rape occurred after the marriage, living away in safety does not mean that a partner loses their rights, you cannot take them away. A divorce settlement is what we cannot agree.
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