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[Viewpoint]

So obviously this documentary has not a bit difference to you hardcore Turk haters.

[repulsewarrior]

So obviously this documentary has not a bit difference to you hardcore Turk haters.

has it made any difference to you?

[Viewpoint]

So obviously this documentary has not a bit difference to you hardcore Turk haters.

has it made any difference to you?

Didnt your parents teach you its impolite to answer a question with a question? but I will still go ahead and answer your question, yes it did..it proves that checks and balances are key to finding a solution to guarantee these terrible acts of the past are not allowed to be repeated.

[repulsewarrior]

So obviously this documentary has not a bit difference to you hardcore Turk haters.

has it made any difference to you?

Didnt your parents teach you its impolite to answer a question with a question? but I will still go ahead and answer your question, yes it did..it proves that checks and balances are key to finding a solution to guarantee these terrible acts of the past are not allowed to be repeated.

...why not watch it again. tolerance is the issue, and clarity; thus, i find your little platitude offensive because i know you better, i will tell you directly, you are no more than a hypocrite, i don't generalise when i ask you, are you Turkish or a "Turk", i know there are killers, i know they are not Greeks or Turks, they are Individuals who hide behind their "Greekness" or "Turkishness" to justify Criminal Acts. you vp still live in the world of hate "They" created (to hold the political Agenda), and by your acts are "Them", an accessory. checks and balances cannot exist that will satisfy this attitude of mind, (and i think you know that), it is an endless spiral that leads to more misery, and more death. say, "I love Cyprus, first. it's people, like me, are Cypriot. i may be Turkish, but, i am no "Turk".

...((say, "where is the Greek Constituency?") if as a Person you seek an equal).

...we can hope, the youth, (beside the four we see in this story,) have a sense of the world which includes Human respect, obviously you would like to believe differently placing your Person before your Being, still. no, vp, this documentary did not make a difference, (although i learn again, that i am not alone in my thinking), i cried at parts, but, my resolve is the same, i remain a hater of the Ignorance which resists change for no good reason except the fear of change itself. my hatred has a Glory, and a Grace, yours, as the elders say, must stop.

[Viewpoint]

So what checks and balances are in your opinion important?

[repulsewarrior]

defining Freedom as Individuals, not as Greeks or Turks, but as Cypriots.

...who live Bicommunally; meaning they can choose as a Person to live in a Constituency, and to enjoy this Liberty, as equals.

...you can refer to my manifesto, or Kik's proposal, or google Bicommunal to see how many countries live as Nations within a State.

[Viewpoint]

defining Freedom as Individuals, not as Greeks or Turks, but as Cypriots.

...who live Bicommunally; meaning they can choose as a Person to live in a Constituency, and to enjoy this Liberty, as equals.

...you can refer to my manifesto, or Kik's proposal, or google Bicommunal to see how many countries live as Nations within a State.

Can you be more specific, for example how will the governing body be formed? what will be the balance?

[Lordo]

rw the gcs do not want to share cyprus, what they are after is tasking contrl of the whole of cyprus. policy has not changed since 74, just the methods.

[repulsewarrior]

...without getting into picayune details, and absurd speculations, why not join me where we left off, in my manifesto thingy, vp.

i suggest an open mind; that we are Cypriots regardless of our ethnic origins, this Heritance comes first. let us sustain the Principal that a State will exist which represents Individuals, not Persons. let us further assume that if there exists Cypriot Constituencies, that they are subject to the will of the People as Cypriots, and that they too will be equal as Identities. let us remember that the displaced exist, that they come first, Justice for them must be seen, and that they should have the satisfaction of forgiving, because as Cypriots we recognise and respect the fact that they are not "Greek", or "Turkish", but that they are Human Beings. most of all, we must declare our love for the island itself as its Citizens, not our hate for the past wrongs where there is no innocent, and not simply as fans for two mythic Nations who have fought their proxy war, here; if you think you have no need to change, vp, i will continue to hope you will understand, it is a fatal flaw to resist what cannot stay the same, tarmacs over dead bodies and all, forty years too late as was said, by an Army and a regime who believe their bills could have remained unpaid, where the sea must take their waste raw, dumping grounds for filth are epidemic in the streets, and water is scarce. and, if as a Person (not as an Individual) you choose to devote your whole Identity toward a Constituency, this is the Liberty my Cyprus offers, a Cypriot Identity, taxpayers with equal representation as voters, closer to their taxdollars: ask, where is the Greek Constituency, if a Turkish Constituency must exist?

...indeed, what are the safeguards if it is not Turkey (or/and Greece), but ourselves.

[repulsewarrior]

rw the gcs do not want to share cyprus, what they are after is tasking contrl of the whole of cyprus. policy has not changed since 74, just the methods.

you may be talking class warfare, then say it clear, because the "Greeks" who want the whole island are no different to the "Turks" who want their cut and it's bullshit to me if you sit there whining, taking either one of those two sides; see post, above. (you of all people should know better.)

...Lordo, pardon the expression, but, Fuck them, i don't know why you go on and on about "them", like there is no other, and no other choice, you remain preoccupied, who are these "gcs", am i a "gc" because i am not "Turkish"? bullshit, and old school, a dogma for stagnation, a return to the time where Cyprus was a backwater and no more than an Army camp with services, is that what you look forward to just because some "Greeks" gave/give you the opportunity to be chummy with them in a game which is (again, as the elders say), an endless spiral. like i said to vp in the post above, you are welcome to fight for Cyprus, not just against "Greeks".

...perhaps you will join me in my manifesto thingy, thingy, and like vp, review each article with a yes or a no, that would be nice.