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[kimon07]

...it was Aristotle the person who gave Alexander his megalomaniac ideas or did he simply try to justify the outburst of Hellenic colonialistic imperialism, which flowed from what Alexander did, with the often forced Hellenisation of peoples, as eg prompted Jewish uprisings as they thought their Ethnos was under threat?

Forging history again stud?

The Jews claim that Judaism survived thanks to Alexander:

Jewish Virtual Library- Greeks and Jews
(332-63 BC)

In general, though, the Greeks left the Jews alone; adopting Cyrus's policy, they allowed the Jews to run their own country, declared that the law of Judah was the Torah, and attempted to preserve Jewish religion. When the Seleucid king, Antiochus IV, desecrated the Temple in 168 BCE, he touched off a Jewish revolt under the Maccabees; for a brief time, Judah became an independent state again.
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If you were born in Israel, and you moved to Tyre, or Babylon, or Egypt, you were always an Israelite. Your legal status in the country you're living in would be "foreigner" or "sojourner." The Greeks, however, would allow foreigners to become citizens in the polis ; it became possible all throughout the Middle East for Hebrews and others to become citizens of states other than Judah. This is vital for understanding the Jewish dispersion; for the rights of citizenship (or near-citizenship, called polituemata ), allowed Jews to remain outside of Judaea and still thrive. In many foreign cities throughout the Hellenistic world, the Jews formed unified and solid communities; Jewish women enjoyed more rights and autonomy in these communities rather than at home.
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More than any other event in Jewish history, this translation (= Greek translation of the Torah) would make the Hebrew religion into a world religion. It would otherwise have faded from memory like the infinity of Semitic religions that have been lost to us.

This Greek version made the Hebrew scriptures available to the Mediterranean world and to early Christians who were otherwise fain to regard Christianity as a religion unrelated to Judaism. Even with a Greek translation, the Hebrew scriptures came within a hair's breadth of being tossed out of the Christian canon. From this Greek translation, the Hebrew view of God, of history, of law, and of the human condition, in all its magnificence would spread around the world. The dispersion, or Diaspora, of the Jews would involve ideas as well as people.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... reeks.html

Jewish Encyclopedia
ALEXANDER THE GREAT:

The celebrated conqueror of the East, 356-323 B.C.

By introducing Hellenic culture into Syria and Egypt, he had probably more influence on the development of Judaism than any one individual not a Jew by race.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/artic ... -the-great

Alexander and the Jews.

Now Alexander set his sights on Jerusalem. The High Priest Jeduah had refused his earlier demand for provisions and men to help him conquer Tyre claiming that a treaty with Persia prevented Israel from helping the Greeks. Alexander was now intent upon showing the Jews who they should have made treaties with. In terror Jeduah and all of Jerusalem sought the LORD in prayer and sacrifice. The Lord told them not to worry, but to get dressed in all their finery, open the gates and go out to greet Alexander when he arrived.

They did just that. In all their white linen, purple robes and golden headdresses the priests gathered behind Jeduah, threw open the gates to the city, and went to meet Alexander. Stunned by this greeting, Alexander dismounted and bowed down before Jeduah. The Jews couldn’t believe their eyes! When they asked him about it, Alexander replied, “I didn’t pay homage to Jeduah, but to the God Who made him His High Priest.” Then he went up to the Temple and made sacrifice to the LORD, sparing the city. At the Temple he told them the reason for his actions.

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Then Jeduah brought out the scroll of Daniel written 200 years earlier and pointed to the portion we would call chapter 8 in which Daniel’s vision of a one-horned goat defeating a ram represents a king from Greece defeating the Persians. The angel Gabriel had personally explained this to Daniel (Daniel 8:20-21), and Alexander understood that he was that king. From that time forward Alexander gave the Jews great privilege in his kingdom often appointing them as administrators over cities he conquered………
Source(s):
http://gracethrufaith.com/ikvot-hamashia…

Rebellion against the Hellenic imperialistic/colonialistic invaders was on the basis of other comments here quite a reasonable response.

Absolutely and 100%. But, other than the (very justified) revolt of the Macabees against Antiochus can you mention any others?

...and I think Kimon07 has exposed himself as a likely racist by suggesting this (eugenics) was in any way desirable. The end result is could in fact be village idiot syndrome caused by excessive inbreeding within a restrictive Gene pool.

Forging my posts again stud? I don't think my english are THAT bad so as to allow you to missunderstand my posts.

Eugenics are indeed being practiced in a restricted form in Cyprus even today, as a part of official policy, namely the eradication of Thalassemia through screening and eg abortion of likely carriers.

OMG. The Nazi Republic of Cyprus then?

[Paphitis]

This thread is just getting too ridiculous because of Kimon!

[kimon07]

This thread is just getting too ridiculous because of Kimon!

Aaaaaaa. Here comes to Paphiti again

[kurupetos]

At a supranational banquet in 324 B.C. at Opis, in ancient Babylon, near present-day
Baghdad, attended by 9,000 notables of many nations and tribes, Alexander attempted
to join East and West by taking an oath under the one “God, Father of all humanity,”
following his vision that behind all the local gods was a great omnipotent God who moves
the Universe. He said:

“Now that the wars are coming to an end,
I wish you to prosper in peace. May all
the mortals from now on live like one
people, in concord and for mutual
advancement. Consider the world your
country, with laws common to all and
where the best will govern, irrespective
of tribe. I do not distinguish among men,
as the narrow-minded do, both among Greeks
and barbarians. I am not interested in the
descent of the citizens, nor their racial origins.
I classify them using only one criterion: virtue.
For me every virtuous foreigner is a Greek,
and every evil Greek worse than a barbarian.
If differences ever develop among you,
never have recourse to arms, but solve them
peacefully. If necessary, I shall be your
arbitrator. You must not consider God like an
autocratic despot, but as a common Father of all,
so that your behavior may resemble the life
siblings have in a family. On my part, I shall
consider you all equal, whites or blacks, and I
wish you would be not only subjects of the
commonwealth, but participants and partners.
As much as this depends on me, I shall try to
bring about what I promised. The oath we
make over tonight’s libations, hold onto as
a Contract of Love.


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Too bad it's fake Oceans...

[GreekIslandGirl]

It's been withdrawn ...



.... kick them up the grass ......roots!

[kurupetos]

Is that the next PM?

[Lordo]

monodahdilo is what he is getting, he thinks he will win enough seats to control the conservatives. all he will do is reduce their vote to let labour in. long may he last.

[kurupetos]

monodahdilo is what he is getting, he thinks he will win enough seats to control the conservatives. all he will do is reduce their vote to let labour in. long may he last.

Are you a labourist, cuz?

I thought you didn't like work!

[GreekIslandGirl]

Is that the next PM?

Is there much difference between Farage and Cameron?

Coalition?

[Lordo]

monodahdilo is what he is getting, he thinks he will win enough seats to control the conservatives. all he will do is reduce their vote to let labour in. long may he last.

Are you a labourist, cuz?

I thought you didn't like work!

of course i work. i have 6 wives and 15 children. i put 6 to work and one to wash my feet and cook for me but I insist she has to cook the food before she washes my feet. gavole she will not bloody learn, i have to watch her. you think thats easy. i bet you cant keep one woman.