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The isolation is imposed on them by the RoC, which is doing everything in its power to block the EU adapting direct trade and economic aid.

Like I said...thats rubbish. TC have every right to do international business through the legal RoC ports. Quit with your crap rhetoric about RoC trying to starve Tc to death...its bollocks. Thousands of TC can work in the RoC and there are a few have decided to live there. BG Turk, your research is totally flawed and that is why you do not get a decent answer from the GC here..because you are racist and unwilling to learn the truth. Asking RoC to give Turkey its ports and give them recogition of their stolen state is ridiculous.

No it did, ethnic cleansing was first comitted by greeks in Aegean Macedonia against its slavic inhabitants in 1911.

Again, do you have any CREDIBLE proof of this or is this another BG Turk story. I also like the way you said 'first'..as if time started in 1911...or does it start in 1960? I get confused with Turks like you. You fail to mention the 500 year ethinc cleansing of Christians in Asia Minor by the Turks too.

In the same way the greedy RoC which insists on keeping the stolen turkish cypriot land in the south. Not a single turkish cypriot has been able to reclaim his land. Not only is the land stolen from their original owners, but many of the villages are reduced to rubble

If thats the case, why are their TC living in RoC??? Again, you have made all this up to suit your ideologies....and how is RoC stealing TC land if it has made countless statements that it recognises title deeds belonging to TC and has even set up a body to deal with TC land in the RoC.

Where does it say that land of a state should be proportional to its population. Canada owns 40% of North America, despite its population being less than 10% of the total. Teach them a lesson in arithmetic as well.

Canada is way bigger than Cyprus...and at the end of the day, the situations are totally different. Another desparate comparison from BG Turk.

100,000 settlers?! Maybe you are the one who needs arithmetics lessons.

Well you tell me...if settlers make up around 40%60% of the population in the north, what are the figures??? At the end of the day, you have no real love for TC...otherwise you would understand that they are a minority even within northern Cyprus. You simply jump on this Cyprus problem bandwagon because you are anti Greek.

[zan]

"The isolation is imposed on them by the RoC, which is doing everything in its power to block the EU adapting direct trade and economic aid."



Like I said...thats rubbish. TC have every right to do international business through the legal RoC ports. Quit with your crap rhetoric about RoC trying to starve Tc to death...its bollocks. Thousands of TC can work in the RoC and there are a few have decided to live there. BG Turk, your research is totally flawed and that is why you do not get a decent answer from the GC here..because you are racist and unwilling to learn the truth. Asking RoC to give Turkey its ports and give them recogition of their stolen state is ridiculous.

Rubbish and crap is exactly what you are talking. Yes it is every TC right to do international business through the RoC, if they want to give up their rights in every thing else and sell their souls to the Greeks trying to take over the whole country. You have a wonderful way of telling half the story in your normal foul-mouthed way and expect a round of applause fort saying absolutely nothing. If you want people to respect what you say, first of all grow up and try to tell the whole story. Wasn’t it Samson who had the Turkish flag in one hand and a revolver in the other, offering to take the besieged TCs to freedom? We do not swallow half stories any more. You know the really sad thing is, I think you really believe what you are saying.

"No it did, ethnic cleansing was first comitted by greeks in Aegean Macedonia against its slavic inhabitants in 1911."

Again, do you have any CREDIBLE proof of this or is this another BG Turk story. I also like the way you said 'first'..as if time started in 1911...or does it start in 1960? I get confused with Turks like you. You fail to mention the 500 year ethinc cleansing of Christians in Asia Minor by the Turks too.

http://www.banitsa.com/history.aspx

"Finally, admitting their defeat, the commanders asked the villagers to continue the feast. The celebration continued into the night. After this event, many Banicheni were ordered by the Greek authorities to go to Lerin, where they were questioned and threatened. Four were interned; Kitse Kochev, State Boglev, Mitse Vasev, and Kitse Mangov. They were severely punished, but the real criminals were the persecutors.

"In 1936, the fascist dictatorship was typically brutal towards the Macedonians. Macedonians were forbidden to speak in their own language. They could no longer practice their traditions and customs. Everyone was forced to declare himself/herself as a Greek. Even the senior citizens were forced to attend night schools to learn the Greek language. If someone was caught speaking Macedonian, he/she had to go to court, facing a fine of 300 drachmas. If he/she was caught a second time, the fine was doubled. If caught a third time, he/she was sent to prison. Some people from Zaberdini and Asanovo were exiled to Crete, Peleponnesus, and other locales because they sang a song about the legendary Banichenetz, Dzole Gergev."

Proof enough? Or did a Greek hating leftist who steals people’s land and ethnically cleanses Llamas from Lapland write it. Or maybe just to get back at the Turks for being so bad from the begining of time.

"Where does it say that land of a state should be proportional to its population. Canada owns 40% of North America, despite its population being less than 10% of the total. Teach them a lesson in arithmetic as well."

Canada is way bigger than Cyprus...and at the end of the day, the situations are totally different. Another desparate comparison from BG Turk.

Possession is nine tenths of the law for a start and after that there are many more that were chased out that should still be there. Ethnic cleansing again from the Greeks to get back at the Turks. Sins of the fathers I suppose.

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"100,000 settlers?! Maybe you are the one who needs arithmetics lessons."

Well you tell me...if settlers make up around 40%60% of the population in the north, what are the figures??? At the end of the day, you have no real love for TC...otherwise you would understand that they are a minority even within northern Cyprus. You simply jump on this Cyprus problem bandwagon because you are anti Greek.

They are all TC welcomed geusts who are nationalised in the TRNC.

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lol Zan, I take you dont have much Cypriotness in you do you. I know a lot of TC who would disagree with you about welcoming the settlers. Some Tc cant even go into villages occupied by settlers without getting abuse.

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lol Zan, I take you dont have much Cypriotness in you do you. I know a lot of TC who would disagree with you about welcoming the settlers. Some Tc cant even go into villages occupied by settlers without getting abuse.

Old news Source, old news. Thirty years have made a difference and these people are becoming loving citizens of the TRNC. We do not want to uproot people that have made Cyprus their homes for what ever reasons of the time like you want to just so you can go Turk bashing.

Is that all you can find w3rong with my extensive post to bicker about?

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Proof enough? Or did a Greek hating leftist who steals people’s land and ethnically cleanses Llamas from Lapland write it. Or maybe just to get back at the Turks for being so bad from the begining of time.

Not really...considering the website it comes from. If you were to show me a neautral perspective then I might look into it...but after seeing so many bullshit websites like ATCA, who make up so much rubbish...how do i know this website isnt made up from some like BG Turk who has a hate for Greeks.

Possession is nine tenths of the law

a convenient phrase. so does it take a war to get our property back? if people like you are in power then im ready.

Old news Source, old news. Thirty years have made a difference and these people are becoming loving citizens of the TRNC. We do not want to uproot people that have made Cyprus their homes for what ever reasons of the time like you want to just so you can go Turk bashing.

Is that all you can find w3rong with my extensive post to bicker about?

Is that still your excuse for segregtion....the Greeks are going to go 'Turk bashing'. You make no mention of the Turks that were Greek bashing at that point in time at all. Its people with a selective history like you that are the real enemy of TC. Because of people like you who want the occupation to stay, Turkish Cypriots will be a small minority in Cyprus with no Cypriot culture at all...you will all be called Turks. I find it funny that you are so blind that you cant see Turkey is doing what you accused the GC of doing. Its people like you who make me sick...the ones who try to abolish our homes and history for so long. Your a true Turk.

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Hi Niciforos

You speak of the dangers of inter-marriage - and YOU promote racial purity. You espouse anti-Jewish sentiment. Does it not concern you that Hitler put forward the same views in the 1930s?lana

Hoping that your child and by extension that all children of your community will marry someone of the same religious and ethnic background is a sentiment shared by hundreds of millions if not billions of people around the world. Your suggestion that this makes them into versions of Hitler is ridiculous and offensive. In fact you border on slandering me.

The fact is that many people, especially religious people, discourage intermarriage. This includes Jews, Muslims, Christians, Hindus, etc. I salute them and applaud their courage in upholding their convictions. Of course for liberals of any persuasion anything is acceptable. Numerous sociological studies support the fact that people who marry someone of a similar ethnic and religious background have a better chance of having a successful marriage.

YOU SLANDEROUSLY ACCUSE ME OF BEING ANTI-JEWISH. PERHAPS IT IS YOU WHO ARE ANTI-CHRISTIAN? I have pointed out FACTS as to who is JEWISH in the intelligentsia of American foreign policy. This information was obtained through numerous articles in the American media. Israeli Mossad agents were caught spying in Cyprus. The American Israel Political Action Committee (AIPAC) has lobbied the American Congress on behalf of Turkish foreign policy interests. In fact various media have reported on the cozy relationship between Jews and Turks.

THE ACTIONS OF AMERICAN JEWS AS EXPRESSED THROUGH THEIR LOBBYING EFFORTS ARE HOSTILE TO GREEKS AND ARMENIANS.

STATING THE FACTS IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN ESPOUSING ANTI-JEWISH SENTIMENT. Why are you so worried that these facts be expressed??

[BirKibrisli]

Source,Yiasu bre

You are right when you say TCs are already a minority in the TRNC.
They are stripped of any political power,and their government is a puppet in Turkey's hands.But your attitude is not helping them want to embrace you and have a chance of maintaining their Cypriotness.You and the majority ogf GCs need to start playing down your Greekness and playing up your Cypriotness if you want the minority to want to join you in any kind of federal solution,let alone in a unitary state.
With the likes of Nikiforos shouting the praises of ethnic segregation,religious and cultural purity,you can't blame Zan for not trusting the GCs good intentions.I know the TCs.They like their Cypriotness and they know they have little in common with the mainlanders culturally.But what they have in common (language and religion) is enough to make them prefer to be assimilated into the Turkish culture rather than the Greek culture.It is up to the GCs to make them believe you put Cypriotness above Greekness in the RoC.Most GCs in this forum are doing their best to push the TCs away>I don't think you realise how fanatically Greek you guys sound.It is almost enough to scare even me.Almost but not quite

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It is up to the GCs to make them believe you put Cypriotness above Greekness in the RoC.Most GCs in this forum are doing their best to push the TCs away>I don't think you realise how fanatically Greek you guys sound.It is almost enough to scare even me.Almost but not quite

mer habar bikibrisli.
keep it up mate. dont give up on us that fast. i dont know how representative a forum is for the gc community. in general i consider our community really concervative but this racial purity theories i never heard outside the forum. the anti-jewsish feeling is typical for greeks, but this anti-islamik is really new in the market. i dont have a clue since when it became a fashion. even though i have the feeling that the last four members with such ideas were actually one person.
i dont know if it the most of us or the most loud of us or just the worse of us as greek singer said in one of his songs:
ta kalitera paidia kourastikan kai girisan sto spiti
the best ones got sich and tired and simply returned home

[cypezokyli]

Nikifore the fact that the jewish lobby is strong or that the american policy is against us or that jewish spies were caught in cyprus...well has nothing to do with intermarriage, and why are purity is at stake or why we should bother about our purity.
i am sorry, but i fail to see the link between the two

[zan]

Nikifore the fact that the jewish lobby is strong or that the american policy is against us or that jewish spies were caught in cyprus...well has nothing to do with intermarriage, and why are purity is at stake or why we should bother about our purity.
i am sorry, but i fail to see the link between the two

I have the same discussions with my parents. In their eyes it seems that the whole world is out to get them not only as Turks but also as Muslims. They however, are over eighty years old, bless them, and spent only four years in school between them. What I can’t understand is the young misunderstanding the world in this way. Jewish spies, Turkish spies and I hope this is not too much of a shock but also there are Greek spies. Every one is spying on everyone. Why some people have to cry rape when they are just as bad is beyond me. The Turks are in bed with the Jews, the Greeks are in bed with Iranians. It all goes on. Shame but it does. Wake up and smell the humus people.