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Re: stolen greek land

Postby Nikiforos » Thu Nov 17, 2005 1:55 am

bg_turk wrote:I am not going to let people like you impose economic hardships on the TC community, and keep them in isolation...

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THE TCs ARE ECONOMICALLY AND POLITICALLY ISOLATED BECAUSE 40,000 TURKISH TROOPS CONTINUE TO OCCUPY ROC TERRITORY. THEIR "HARDSHIPS" ARE OF THEIR OWN DOING AND THAT OF THEIR MAIN BENEFACTOR--TURKEY.
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Re: stolen greek land

Postby bg_turk » Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:33 am

THE HARDSHIPS OF THE TCS ARE INFLICTED UPON THEM BY THE ROC WHICH CONTINUES TO KEEP THEM UNDER ISOLATION, REFUSES TO RESTORE THEIR PROPERTIESIN THE SOUTH, TOLERATES RACIST ASSAULTS AGAINST THEM AND PREVENTS THEM FROM EXCERCISING THEIR MOST FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS SUCH AS VOTING AND MARRIAGE. TCS HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO LIVE IN THE TRNC, WHICH IS THEIR ONLY SHELTER.
TCS CANNOT RETURN TO THEIR FORMER HOMES AND VILLAGES, MOST OF WHICH HAVE BEEN DESTROYED, AND LIVING UNDER ISOLATION IS NOT THEIR OWN CHOICE, IT IS INFLICTED UPON THEM BY A GOVERNMENT WHICH HAS THE AUDACITY TO CLAIM TO REPRESENT THEM DESPITE THE FACT THAT THERE IS NOT A SINGLE TCS IN IT, AND DESPITE THE FACT THAT ALL ITS ACTIONS ARE AIMED TO THE DETRIMENT OF TCS.
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Postby Main_Source » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:01 am

THE HARDSHIPS OF THE TCS ARE INFLICTED UPON THEM BY THE ROC WHICH CONTINUES TO KEEP THEM UNDER ISOLATION


They choose to keep thereselves in isolation by living in a pseudo state which has no legitimate values and has stolen the property of 200,000 GC. TC can do international business and within the legitimate government of Cyprus. Asking Cyprus to let Turkey run the airports and harbours it stole from Cyprus is ridiculous.


REFUSES TO RESTORE THEIR PROPERTIES IN THE SOUTH,
Do you mean return or restore? As far as i know, TC can take back their legitimate properties in the free areas if they become citizens in the RoC. They cannot take back their properties if living in 'TRNC', as that is seen as promoting the entitiy which refuses to give up the properties of GC, which would subsequently set unfair double standards.

TOLERATES RACIST ASSAULTS AGAINST THEM AND PREVENTS THEM
and your proof being?



PREVENTS THEM FROM EXCERCISING THEIR MOST FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS SUCH AS VOTING AND MARRIAGE.
As far as i know, you cant vote in the RoC unless you are a legitimate resident and marriage is not permitted between muslim and christian...which is old fashion but something TC authorities would probably want, considering that marrying with Greeks would see the TC community shrink into the GC community. Saying that, Turkey has done an AB FAB job of ethnically cleansing TC from Cyprus. What is the ratio of TC to illegal Turkish settlers in Cyprus again?

TCS HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO LIVE IN THE TRNC, WHICH IS THEIR ONLY SHELTER
Wrong, they can live and work in the RoC (as well as get free healthcare...which Greek Cypriots pay for).

TCS CANNOT RETURN TO THEIR FORMER HOMES AND LIVING UNDER ISOLATION IS NOT THEIR OWN CHOICE, IT IS INFLICTED UPON THEM BY A GOVERNMENT WHICH AT THE SAME TIME HAS THE AUDACITY TO CLAIM TO REPRESENT THEM DESPITE THE FACT THAT THERE IS NOT A SINGLE TCS IN IT, AND DESPITE THE FACT THAT ALL ITS ACTIONS ARE AIMED TO THE DETRIMENT OF TCS.
Yes they can is the last thing I heard. Its just they cannot take their homes whilst they are residents of 'TRNC' that promotes the stealing of GC homes. There is not a single TC in the RoC? hahahahaha...you've really done your homework havent you...(I hope you detect the sarcasm). Which actions are aimed at the detrement of TC? The free healthcare??? lol

Nice to see you've done lots of research as usual BG Turk. keep up the good work.
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Postby Nikiforos » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:49 am

TCs ARE LIVING IN SELF-IMPOSED ISOLATION UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THEIR TURKISH MASTERS.

THE TURKS ARE THE WORLD'S EXPERTS ON RACISM HAVING TRIED TO EXTERMINATE EVERY CHRISTIAN GROUP TO HAVE HAD THE MISFORTUNE TO HAVE LIVED WITHIN THEIR BORDERS.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE TCS HAVE CHOSEN TO LIVE AS THEY DO SEPARATE FROM THE GCS. THE TCS AND THEIR TURKISH PATRONS HAVE USED ETHNIC CLEANSING AGAINST THE GCS. THE WORLD DIDN'T HAVE A PHRASE FOR IT IN 1974.

THE GREEDY TURKS AND TCS HAVE STOLEN GC LAND IN THE NORTH. INDUSTRIOUS PEOPLE EARN WHAT THEY HAVE--THEY WORK HARD FOR IT. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE TURKS AND TCS ARE THIEVES WHO STOLE THE GCS LAND.

18% OF THE POPULATION HAS FORCEFULLY TAKEN MORE THAN 37% OF THE LAND. THE TURKS AND TURKOPHILES NEED A LESSON IN ARITHMETIC.

THE TCS ARE A MINORITY EVEN WITHIN THE NORTHERN PART OF CYPRUS WHICH IS OCCUPIED BY THE TURKISH ARMY. IF THE TCS HAD A SHRED OF INTEGRITY AND SELF-RESPECT LEFT, THEY WOULD ASK EVEN DEMAND, THAT THE MORE THAN 100,000 ILLEGAL SETTLERS FROM TURKEY LEAVE CYPRUS NOW.
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Postby Nikiforos » Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:56 am

[color=red]THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS HAVE CHOSEN TO LIVE IN ISOLATION BY FORCEFULLY STEALING GREEK CYPRIOT LAND IN DEFIANCE OF INTERNATIONAL LAW.
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Postby bg_turk » Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:13 am

TCs ARE LIVING IN SELF-IMPOSED ISOLATION UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THEIR TURKISH MASTERS.

The isolation is imposed on them by the RoC, which is doing everything in its power to block the EU adapting direct trade and economic aid.

THE TCS AND THEIR TURKISH PATRONS HAVE USED ETHNIC CLEANSING AGAINST THE GCS. THE WORLD DIDN'T HAVE A PHRASE FOR IT IN 1974.

No it did, ethnic cleansing was first comitted by greeks in Aegean Macedonia against its slavic inhabitants in 1911.

THE GREEDY TURKS AND TCS HAVE STOLEN GC LAND IN THE NORTH. INDUSTRIOUS PEOPLE EARN WHAT THEY HAVE--THEY WORK HARD FOR IT. ON THE OTHER HAND, THE TURKS AND TCS ARE THIEVES WHO STOLE THE GCS LAND.

In the same way the greedy RoC which insists on keeping the stolen turkish cypriot land in the south. Not a single turkish cypriot has been able to reclaim his land. Not only is the land stolen from their original owners, but many of the villages are reduced to rubble.

18% OF THE POPULATION HAS FORCEFULLY TAKEN MORE THAN 37% OF THE LAND. THE TURKS AND TURKOPHILES NEED A LESSON IN ARITHMETIC.

Where does it say that land of a state should be proportional to its population. Canada owns 40% of North America, despite its population being less than 10% of the total. Teach them a lesson in arithmetic as well.

THE TCS ARE A MINORITY EVEN WITHIN THE NORTHERN PART OF CYPRUS WHICH IS OCCUPIED BY THE TURKISH ARMY. IF THE TCS HAD A SHRED OF INTEGRITY AND SELF-RESPECT LEFT, THEY WOULD ASK EVEN DEMAND, THAT THE MORE THAN 100,000 ILLEGAL SETTLERS FROM TURKEY LEAVE CYPRUS NOW.[/u][/i][/b]

100,000 settlers?! Maybe you are the one who needs arithmetics lessons.
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Postby Nikiforos » Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:02 am

[quote="bg_turk"]The isolation is imposed on them by the RoC, which is doing everything in its power to block the EU adapting direct trade and economic aid. [/bg_turk]

THE TRNC IS A PSEUDOSTATE RECOGNIZED ONLY BY TURKEY. IT IS ISOLATED BECAUSE THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD HAVE BEEN UPHOLDING INTERNATIONAL LAW. TURKEY HAS BEEN AN ACCOMPLICE TO KEEPING THE TCS IMPOVERISHED.

THE TCS HAVE BEEN ISOLATED BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN ACTIONS AND DISHONESTY.
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Postby Nikiforos » Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:19 am

bg_turk wrote:Where does it say that land of a state should be proportional to its population. Canada owns 40% of North America, despite its population being less than 10% of the total. Teach them a lesson in arithmetic as well.

YOUR ANALOGY IS FRANKLY STUPID. THE CANADIANS DID NOT STEAL THEIR LAND IN A WAR WITH AMERICANS. BOTH STOLE IT FROM THE NATIVE AMERICANS.


100,000 settlers?! Maybe you are the one who needs arithmetics lessons.


ALAS, I GAVE YOU TOO MUCH CREDIT. I THOUGHT THAT YOU MIGHT BE USEFUL BY MOVING TO TURKEY TO EDUCATE YOUR TURKIK BROTHERS. UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR PRESENCE THERE WILL DO NOTHING TO ERASE THEIR IGNORANCE AND WILL HAVE LITTLE IMPACT ON DECREASING THE NUMBERS OF ILLITERATE TURKS.
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Postby Svetlana » Thu Nov 17, 2005 9:11 am

Hi Niciforos

You speak of the dangers of inter-marriage - and YOU promote racial purity. You espouse anti-Jewish sentiment. Does it not concern you that Hitler put forward the same views in the 1930s?

You speak of people's land being deprived; which is what happen to the Jews of Europe in the 1940s - and 6 million were slain.

You asked me how I would react if my land was stolen; less than 100 years ago, one faction of the Russian population rose up against another and 12 million were killed - and land many times the size of Cyprus, stolen.

So, yes, others have similar experiences to that in Cyprus; while every displaced person, whether GC or TC is a personal tragedy, you must view this in perspective.

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Postby zan » Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:28 am

Svetlana wrote:Hi Niciforos

You speak of the dangers of inter-marriage - and YOU promote racial purity. You espouse anti-Jewish sentiment. Does it not concern you that Hitler put forward the same views in the 1930s?

You speak of people's land being deprived; which is what happen to the Jews of Europe in the 1940s - and 6 million were slain.

You asked me how I would react if my land was stolen; less than 100 years ago, one faction of the Russian population rose up against another and 12 million were killed - and land many times the size of Cyprus, stolen.

So, yes, others have similar experiences to that in Cyprus; while every displaced person, whether GC or TC is a personal tragedy, you must view this in perspective.

lana


I’ve got to give it to you and bg_turk for your patience and determination with these people. Long may your strength rein.

As for the purity of Greeks, all you have to do is take a look at the many external forms that the so called pure race takes on to realise that there is no such pureness. A pure race can only be said of some small tribes that have been isolated in jungles somewhere for many many years. I suppose the nearest you could come to any form of pureness after that is to look at Asian countries. Aborigines and native Americans also Africa. Pretty much the rest of the world except for Europe as a matter of fact. I my self have traced my roots back to the Russia.
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