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[GreekIslandGirl]

My boss always said it.
We're a whore.

No true identity, a street child being pimped out to the sex addicts, power hungry abusers and rapists.
We have 'guarantors' (foster parents), sure, but they've abused us, milked us, pimped us out for their own gains.

It's time we grew a backbone.

If your boss said such things about Cyprus, you should have biffed him one and then quit!

[Paphitis]

My boss always said it.
We're a whore.

No true identity, a street child being pimped out to the sex addicts, power hungry abusers and rapists.
We have 'guarantors' (foster parents), sure, but they've abused us, milked us, pimped us out for their own gains.

It's time we grew a backbone.

Most Cypriots actually know this which is why we use derogatory terms such as "kalamara".

My old man was a successful businessman, and he use to say this:

"you can do business with an Aussie, Cypriot, Brit, American, Jew, German, Japanese, or Chinese person, but never do business with a Greek or Turk".

It seems that the Cypriot Banks proved my old man correct!

Damn, my old man should have been the Head of Laiki Bank!

[miltiades]

We are to blame 100% . We allowed our islands economy to concentrate in the hands of the ruling classes, greed, selfishness, and more greed. They and they alone are responsible for this massive catastrophe that robbed us of our life's hard earned money. How dare they take my HARD EARNED money away from me, how dare they rob my children's and grand children's future financial security.

I do not apportion even an iota of blame to external factors, they and they alone messed up out of sheer excessive greed.

Exorbitant food prices, locally produced and sold at the highest prices. They are depriving our island's ONLY natural resource from expanding and creating wealth for the entire nation ,wealth that could only be generated from tourism and not from so called financial services.

Dreadful catastrophic investments in Greece, billions thrown away and in the process earning the principals huge commissions.

Let us focus on our natural resources, - Gas is a long way away yet- our weather, our sea, mountains and our people. Lets bring tourists in their millions to Cyprus and let us not allow Paphos and Larnaca airport fleece them with a soggy slice of pizza for 7 euros !!!

Prices are really out of hand. Milk, cheese, bread, daily essentials such as black dustbin bags, manufactured in Cyprus and sold for more than 3 euros a bundle!!

Chickens reared in Cyprus and costing twice as much as in any other European nation.

Wines masquerading as "classy" wines when in fact they are just plain drinkable Cypriot produced wines sold for exorbitant prices.So called free range FRESH eggs- all bloody eggs should be fresh- sold in a well known Limassol hypermarket for 3.48 euros for 6 !!!

Sheer daylight robbery

[GreekIslandGirl]

... billions thrown away and in the process earning the principals huge commissions.

This what has been at the heart of the global crisis (not just in Greece or Cyprus). Unregulated banking! Leaving a few greedy individuals to help themselves to everyone's money or gamble it away to get themselves more. Like leaving alcoholics in charge of your drinks bar.

[Paphitis]

... billions thrown away and in the process earning the principals huge commissions.

This what has been at the heart of the global crisis (not just in Greece or Cyprus). Unregulated banking! Leaving a few greedy individuals to help themselves to everyone's money or gamble it away to get themselves more. Like leaving alcoholics in charge of your drinks bar.

... billions thrown away and in the process earning the principals huge commissions.

This what has been at the heart of the global crisis (not just in Greece or Cyprus). Unregulated banking! Leaving a few greedy individuals to help themselves to everyone's money or gamble it away to get themselves more. Like leaving alcoholics in charge of your drinks bar.

The "global crisis" does not seem to be global. It seems to be isolated in Europe, in particular the Southern Countries.

Now let's be truthful here. There are many things in Greece that contributed to their crisis. There are a lot of things wrong in Greece and if your honest you would admit that the endemic things that are wrong go way beyond the norm.

The other thing is the Eurozone seems to think a one size will fit all. Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal and Ireland were and are still unable to set their own fiscal policy or basically print because that will devalue the Euro and Germany will take a hit because it will need to spend more to buy the resources to manufacture things like cars which it will export.

Everything seems to be set for the benefit of Europe's powerhouse economy, because they control the money. The Southern Countries basically have their hands tied.

The Bankers in Greece were not really at fault. The Bankers in Cyprus are different. They over invested in Greece when everyone else was scrambling to get out because they knew that it was only a matter of time.

If you do some research you will find that Australian, HK and Chinese Banks are seeing record profits and virtually none invested in Greece. They employ the best Brokers, and Analysts money can buy to evaluate risk and look where the Bank they work for could be exposed. They are quite happy buying bonds at 1-2% pa and stay safe while making big margins on consumer lending and products etc.

If they were exposed in Greece, they would have abandoned that ship a couple of years ago. Lending at 17% is set for a reason. It means there is trouble, instability or a default is forecast and the country is bankrupt. Greece's inability of using inflation would have been a major factor.

You do Greece no favours by making these kinds of excuses. The Banking system is not perfect and it can never be, but Greece and Cyprus need major reform and you should know that if you really care! Even the people are fed up in reality because they see all the rubbish before them and they suffer for it.

People want change...for the better.

[miltiades]

... billions thrown away and in the process earning the principals huge commissions.

This what has been at the heart of the global crisis (not just in Greece or Cyprus). Unregulated banking! Leaving a few greedy individuals to help themselves to everyone's money or gamble it away to get themselves more. Like leaving alcoholics in charge of your drinks bar.

... billions thrown away and in the process earning the principals huge commissions.

This what has been at the heart of the global crisis (not just in Greece or Cyprus). Unregulated banking! Leaving a few greedy individuals to help themselves to everyone's money or gamble it away to get themselves more. Like leaving alcoholics in charge of your drinks bar.

The "global crisis" does not seem to be global. It seems to be isolated in Europe, in particular the Southern Countries.



Now let's be truthful here. There are many things in Greece that contributed to their crisis. There are a lot of things wrong in Greece and if your honest you would admit that the endemic things that are wrong go way beyond the norm.

The other thing is the Eurozone seems to think a one size will fit all. Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal and Ireland were and are still unable to set their own fiscal policy or basically print because that will devalue the Euro and Germany will take a hit because it will need to spend more to buy the resources to manufacture things like cars which it will export.

Everything seems to be set for the benefit of Europe's powerhouse economy, because they control the money. The Southern Countries basically have their hands tied.

The Bankers in Greece were not really at fault. The Bankers in Cyprus are different. They over invested in Greece when everyone else was scrambling to get out because they knew that it was only a matter of time.

If you do some research you will find that Australian, HK and Chinese Banks are seeing record profits and virtually none invested in Greece. They employ the best Brokers, and Analysts money can buy to evaluate risk and look where the Bank they work for could be exposed. They are quite happy buying bonds at 1-2% pa and stay safe while making big margins on consumer lending and products etc.

If they were exposed in Greece, they would have abandoned that ship a couple of years ago. Lending at 17% is set for a reason. It means there is trouble, instability or a default is forecast and the country is bankrupt. Greece's inability of using inflation would have been a major factor.

You do Greece no favours by making these kinds of excuses. The Banking system is not perfect and it can never be, but Greece and Cyprus need major reform and you should know that if you really care! Even the people are fed up in reality because they see all the rubbish before them and they suffer for it.

People want change...for the better.

I agree entirely Paphitis.

[GreekIslandGirl]

The global crisis, which started in the USA and has swept through the UK, then EU and now heading towards the Asian world (e.g. Oz) was ignited by the deregulation of the banking system.

The fact that the EU has chosen different experimental methods to contain it and buffer itself is a secondary theme.

I do not believe the average taxpayer should fund the survival of frigging banks!

The fact that some of you jump on the bandwagon, believing the anti-Greek and now anti-Cypriot propaganda that somehow these countries were sooo above-norm-corrupt, is a sad reflection of the low-intellect displayed in many of your other posts. Or worse, reflects the deep prejudices you feel for the people of Greece and the people of Cyprus from whom you can disenfranchise yourselves having either not been born/lived or carried out your own businesses in either of these countries.

The problem was not unilateral. The solution cannot be either.

So stop defaming these countries from the safety of your own foreign lands!

[Paphitis]

The global crisis, which started in the USA and has swept through the UK, then EU and now heading towards the Asian world (e.g. Oz) was ignited by the deregulation of the banking system.

The fact that the EU has chosen different experimental methods to contain it and buffer itself is a secondary theme.

I do not believe the average taxpayer should fund the survival of frigging banks!

The fact that some of you jump on the bandwagon, believing the anti-Greek and now anti-Cypriot propaganda that somehow these countries were sooo above-norm-corrupt, is a sad reflection of the low-intellect displayed in many of your other posts. Or worse, reflects the deep prejudices you feel for the people of Greece and the people of Cyprus from whom you can disenfranchise yourselves having either not been born/lived or carried out your own businesses in either of these countries.

The problem was not unilateral. The solution cannot be either.

So stop defaming these countries from the safety of your own foreign lands!

Well I can tell you for a fact that Australia has never experienced any crisis thus far and the same applies with China and hence the other Asian Markets riding on their back.

Sadly, the EU does not care that much for Greece et al compared to Germany which has to buy resources, probably from Australia, to keep their economy going so they can buy more stuff from China, Russia, and US. You get the picture.

The US is also on the rebound and looking quite positive.

It is quite clear that the issues in Europe are probably only part due to the US Banking issue but that is really old news now. There are major issues in greece, and there are also major issues in the Eurozone currency which do not help at all.

Look at it this way. The Greek Electorate, seems to agree in that they have temporarily abandoned the mainstream political forces of PASOK and ND for marginal and often extreme and anti EU political movements such as GD, KKE and Siriza. This is due to the frustration of the people towards the political system. It will swing back, in time when things settle down.

[RichardB]

Paphitis wrote

Most Cypriots actually know this which is why we use derogatory terms such as "kalamara".

Now I know this is now used as a derogatory term

But I understand that originally it was used as a term for someone held in high esteem ie a scribe (writer) because of the ink from the squid (kalimari) they used

When and how did it become a derogatory term?

PS I do not know the answer just wondering if anyone else might

[GreekIslandGirl]

Paphitis wrote

Most Cypriots actually know this which is why we use derogatory terms such as "kalamara".

Now I know this is now used as a derogatory term

But I understand that originally it was used as a term for someone held in high esteem ie a scribe (writer) because of the ink from the squid (kalimari) they used

When and how did it become a derogatory term?

PS I do not know the answer just wondering if anyone else might

My mum is the authority on this.

The Turks used it to describe the Greeks' habits of writing (being learned) - but it was used in a slightly derogatory form even then.

But then the "neo-Cypriots" adopted it (1960s) and in their efforts to appear Turk-friendly they amplified the derogatory weight of this racist slur.

It is as if the following were really true ...

From a tiny seed a mighty oak tree can grow to withstand harsh weather conditions, but not Cyprus! It’s as if the young Republic was planted on bad soil and failed to produce strong-minded citizens or a leadership to propel the country forward; instead, it developed a social culture void of solidarity or the spirit for a true democracy.

http://www.qgazette.com/news/2013-07-03 ... yprus.html