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Postby cypezokyli » Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:55 am

hey viewpoint...welcome back
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:25 pm

Agios Amvrosios wrote:Hey Kifeas do you know the Mouyi (fly) family from Lapithos? My god father was born in Lapithos.


I know the family only by hear-say! I do not remember if I ever met anyone of them in any of the Lapithos association meetings. Most likelly I did but I cannot recall it now.
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Postby Vassos1 » Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:55 pm

Kifeas,

What you say is ignorant to what is reality.

Are you really trying to tell me that your collection of facts and historical information is CORRECT? Isn’t the Cyprus problem all about the difference in opinion between the Greeks and Turks? Am I not right in saying that if everyone adopted your way of thinking, your VERSION of history, there wouldn’t be any Cyprus problem, people would all just shake hands and accept the same historical version.

Kifeas, my young friend, you have totally deviated from what I was trying to gain from you; to change your narrow mindedness. Every person in Cyprus has a collection of Facts and Truths, but it is the harmonisation that is important. I have clearly told you my truth, whether you believe it or not, it is MY VERSION.

I have lived through what I have said, I have met with many ministers and people of high position who I personally know were in certain organisations or groups. Your ignorance in not even appreciating what I say, is the very reason why our Greek Cypriot young brothers will one destroy what we have been working towards since 1974. You clearly have no understanding of politics, law or what the true essence of the Cyprus problem of today is. You are blind, similar to the rest of your generation, and I hope that you do not one day open your door in Pafos and suddenly realise that your village contains a majority of Turkish people who were once accepted by the ROC as Kurds.

Think about the follow FACTS:

1) Think about how many Turkish Settlers there are in the ROC posing as Kurdish refuges.

2) Think about how this so-called Kurdish deprived Sheppard made his way through the East of Turkey to the ROC, when they couldn’t even afford to buy a loaf of bread in their Turkish village.

3) Think and investigate the laws of the EU regarding immigration, refuges and illegal immigrants, and tell me if the ROC will be able to one refuse these LEGAL refuges.

4) Tell about the 200’000 Turkish refuges that landed in London posing as Kurds, but are now showing their true colours by working with the Turkish London Lobby Committee. Tell me how many Turkish owned/registered restaurant houses, and food centres have opened in London from the EU forced British financed packages to assist the so-called Kurdish refuges.

5) Tell me about how many Turkish settlers are being filtered through the UNMANNED Famagusta gate, where are the English patrol teams? and where OUR Greek Cypriot border team?

6) Tell me how many Turkish Settlers are sent back by our ROC authorities per MONTH. You would be seriously shocked to know the true figure.

One last point regarding the issue of English Cypriot. If I am not mistaken, Greece and Turkey are not the only guarantor powers of the ROC. The British administered the island from 1878 to 1960, where they could have easily refused the call for its independence in the 1960 treaty. They could have acted in the same way as they did with Gibraltar, Northern Ireland and the Falklands. My English mother was also born in Cyprus, and I am sure that that was long before any of your grandmothers were born (I’ll let you work out the Math).

I think that you being stuck in Pafos really does say it all. Leave your domain, enlighten yourself with the real issues effecting the decisions being made in Cyprus, and re-read Tassos Papadopoulos’ speech before the April 2004 referendum.

Ignorance will get you know where, and I am sure the rest of the contributors in this forum can now understand your lack of true understanding of the Cyprus issue. What frightens me is the rubbish you’ve written in your 1551 posts in this forum.

WAKE-UP and smell the GREEK COFFEE.
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:13 pm

Vassos1 wrote:Kifeas,

What you say is ignorant to what is reality.

Are you really trying to tell me that your collection of facts and historical information is CORRECT? Isn’t the Cyprus problem all about the difference in opinion between the Greeks and Turks? Am I not right in saying that if everyone adopted your way of thinking, your VERSION of history, there wouldn’t be any Cyprus problem, people would all just shake hands and accept the same historical version.

Kifeas, my young friend, you have totally deviated from what I was trying to gain from you; to change your narrow mindedness. Every person in Cyprus has a collection of Facts and Truths, but it is the harmonisation that is important. I have clearly told you my truth, whether you believe it or not, it is MY VERSION.

I have lived through what I have said, I have met with many ministers and people of high position who I personally know were in certain organisations or groups. Your ignorance in not even appreciating what I say, is the very reason why our Greek Cypriot young brothers will one destroy what we have been working towards since 1974. You clearly have no understanding of politics, law or what the true essence of the Cyprus problem of today is. You are blind, similar to the rest of your generation, and I hope that you do not one day open your door in Pafos and suddenly realise that your village contains a majority of Turkish people who were once accepted by the ROC as Kurds.

Think about the follow FACTS:

1) Think about how many Turkish Settlers there are in the ROC posing as Kurdish refuges.

2) Think about how this so-called Kurdish deprived Sheppard made his way through the East of Turkey to the ROC, when they couldn’t even afford to buy a loaf of bread in their Turkish village.

3) Think and investigate the laws of the EU regarding immigration, refuges and illegal immigrants, and tell me if the ROC will be able to one refuse these LEGAL refuges.

4) Tell about the 200’000 Turkish refuges that landed in London posing as Kurds, but are now showing their true colours by working with the Turkish London Lobby Committee. Tell me how many Turkish owned/registered restaurant houses, and food centres have opened in London from the EU forced British financed packages to assist the so-called Kurdish refuges.

5) Tell me about how many Turkish settlers are being filtered through the UNMANNED Famagusta gate, where are the English patrol teams? and where OUR Greek Cypriot border team?

6) Tell me how many Turkish Settlers are sent back by our ROC authorities per MONTH. You would be seriously shocked to know the true figure.

One last point regarding the issue of English Cypriot. If I am not mistaken, Greece and Turkey are not the only guarantor powers of the ROC. The British administered the island from 1878 to 1960, where they could have easily refused the call for its independence in the 1960 treaty. They could have acted in the same way as they did with Gibraltar, Northern Ireland and the Falklands. My English mother was also born in Cyprus, and I am sure that that was long before any of your grandmothers were born (I’ll let you work out the Math).

I think that you being stuck in Pafos really does say it all. Leave your domain, enlighten yourself with the real issues effecting the decisions being made in Cyprus, and re-read Tassos Papadopoulos’ speech before the April 2004 referendum.

Ignorance will get you know where, and I am sure the rest of the contributors in this forum can now understand your lack of true understanding of the Cyprus issue. What frightens me is the rubbish you’ve written in your 1551 posts in this forum.

WAKE-UP and smell the GREEK COFFEE.

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Postby Vassos1 » Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:58 pm

And Kifeas wrote:































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Postby Vassos1 » Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:04 pm

Beware of Kifeas, the Pafos Scholar who's version of the Cyprus issue os the correct one.

He must be seriously underestimated.

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what are YOU doing ?

Postby lysi » Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:30 pm

Will any forum members tell me what they are doing about the occupation, the exploitation of greek owned land and the advertising of holidays to the occupied areas ? ? ?
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:35 pm

Vassos1 wrote:Beware of Kifeas, the Pafos Scholar who's version of the Cyprus issue os the correct one.

He must be seriously underestimated.

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


Vassos you are truely a brave individual and can clearly see passed Kifeas smoke screen of narrow mindedness and materialistic driven views. I have on a number of occassions been exposed to his condensending attiude and belittling rudeness, welcome to the club.
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Re: what are YOU doing ?

Postby Kifeas » Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:48 pm

lysi wrote:Will any forum members tell me what they are doing about the occupation, the exploitation of greek owned land and the advertising of holidays to the occupied areas ? ? ?


We have taken legal action lysi! Take the thieves and the looters to any available court! This is what I have done! Even if you hear of a court located in the middle of hell, do not hesitate; take action there too, even if you will have to use the devil as your attorney. Let me know too!
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Postby Vassos1 » Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:48 pm

Viewpoint,

Thank You. I was beginning to think that I was the only one who thought Kifeas was ignorant.

Now, let's get back to OUR IDEAS (and that is all they are) of what we can do to remove the occupation and sort out this Cyprus problem.
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