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repulse you are again confused and lost, the majority which you yourself quote are the GCs and they reject your ideology...do you understand this? Do you know the difference between soverignty rights and individual personal property rights? we have stolen nothing we have a right to this country just as much as you do, if I am a theif thats makes you an even bigger thief as you have stolen 63% of the island.

Now you really have to get a grip on the fact that there is no unity between south and north, this will not just happen because you want it to, it take time for it to develop and for people to see and experience that unity is far better than living divided, all we have seen from unity are negative results....so why not just give us Ercan and Famagusta port with no strings, a sign of goodwill just as you ask of us?

You can ONLY not steal something if that something entirely belongs to you as an individual, otherwise, YES, you can steal something if it belongs to you and others at the same time. I have many times given you examples of one parent stealing/ kidnapping his/her child, because the child has been taken away from the other parent against their wishes. Now do you get it.... again?

You are twisting things to suit your goal we have as much right to this country as the GCs so we cannot steal what belongs to us.

[Kikapu]

repulse you are again confused and lost, the majority which you yourself quote are the GCs and they reject your ideology...do you understand this? Do you know the difference between soverignty rights and individual personal property rights? we have stolen nothing we have a right to this country just as much as you do, if I am a theif thats makes you an even bigger thief as you have stolen 63% of the island.

Now you really have to get a grip on the fact that there is no unity between south and north, this will not just happen because you want it to, it take time for it to develop and for people to see and experience that unity is far better than living divided, all we have seen from unity are negative results....so why not just give us Ercan and Famagusta port with no strings, a sign of goodwill just as you ask of us?

You can ONLY not steal something if that something entirely belongs to you as an individual, otherwise, YES, you can steal something if it belongs to you and others at the same time. I have many times given you examples of one parent stealing/ kidnapping his/her child, because the child has been taken away from the other parent against their wishes. Now do you get it.... again?

You are twisting things to suit your goal we have as much right to this country as the GCs so we cannot steal what belongs to us.

Not twisting anything. Just proving you wrong, that's all.

If you deny the other parent to access the child and you want to keep the child only for yourself, then you are stealing that child since the child belongs to both the parents.

How come jails are full of child stealers if they did nothing wrong by illegally one parent taking the child away from the other parent?

[Viewpoint]

repulse you are again confused and lost, the majority which you yourself quote are the GCs and they reject your ideology...do you understand this? Do you know the difference between soverignty rights and individual personal property rights? we have stolen nothing we have a right to this country just as much as you do, if I am a theif thats makes you an even bigger thief as you have stolen 63% of the island.

Now you really have to get a grip on the fact that there is no unity between south and north, this will not just happen because you want it to, it take time for it to develop and for people to see and experience that unity is far better than living divided, all we have seen from unity are negative results....so why not just give us Ercan and Famagusta port with no strings, a sign of goodwill just as you ask of us?

You can ONLY not steal something if that something entirely belongs to you as an individual, otherwise, YES, you can steal something if it belongs to you and others at the same time. I have many times given you examples of one parent stealing/ kidnapping his/her child, because the child has been taken away from the other parent against their wishes. Now do you get it.... again?

You are twisting things to suit your goal we have as much right to this country as the GCs so we cannot steal what belongs to us.

Not twisting anything. Just proving you wrong, that's all.

If you deny the other parent to access the child and you want to keep the child only for yourself, then you are stealing that child since the child belongs to both the parents.

How come jails are full of child stealers if they did nothing wrong by illegally one parent taking the child away from the other parent?

Jails full of child stealers, where do you live? we dont have any.....your analogy is obviously wrong and falls short of the reality we live today....this island belongs to its people and seeing we TCs are also its people we have the right to use it.....so you cannot steal what you have a right to use or what belongs to you....the fact that this usage has been reduced to 37% is through a chain of events which both sides have contributed to and have brought us to a position where we cannot unite the 2 sides due to unbridgable differences.....need I remind you who rejected the last official attempt at agreeing a comprehensive solution!!!!

[Kikapu]

repulse you are again confused and lost, the majority which you yourself quote are the GCs and they reject your ideology...do you understand this? Do you know the difference between soverignty rights and individual personal property rights? we have stolen nothing we have a right to this country just as much as you do, if I am a theif thats makes you an even bigger thief as you have stolen 63% of the island.

Now you really have to get a grip on the fact that there is no unity between south and north, this will not just happen because you want it to, it take time for it to develop and for people to see and experience that unity is far better than living divided, all we have seen from unity are negative results....so why not just give us Ercan and Famagusta port with no strings, a sign of goodwill just as you ask of us?

You can ONLY not steal something if that something entirely belongs to you as an individual, otherwise, YES, you can steal something if it belongs to you and others at the same time. I have many times given you examples of one parent stealing/ kidnapping his/her child, because the child has been taken away from the other parent against their wishes. Now do you get it.... again?

You are twisting things to suit your goal we have as much right to this country as the GCs so we cannot steal what belongs to us.

Not twisting anything. Just proving you wrong, that's all.

If you deny the other parent to access the child and you want to keep the child only for yourself, then you are stealing that child since the child belongs to both the parents.

How come jails are full of child stealers if they did nothing wrong by illegally one parent taking the child away from the other parent?

Jails full of child stealers, where do you live? we dont have any.....your analogy is obviously wrong and falls short of the reality we live today....this island belongs to its people and seeing we TCs are also its people we have the right to use it.....so you cannot steal what you have a right to use or what belongs to you....the fact that this usage has been reduced to 37% is through a chain of events which both sides have contributed to and have brought us to a position where we cannot unite the 2 sides due to unbridgable differences.....need I remind you who rejected the last official attempt at agreeing a comprehensive solution!!!!

You can choose to deny the facts that one can steal something if it also belongs to others by taking that something from other owners without their consent, but the reality is, you are stealing it no matter how much you want to paint it to make yourself believe that you are not a thief by doing so. No one is saying you don't also have equal ownership in Cyprus. You just don't have exclusive ownership, because of other equal owners with you and by denying them their rights to the same ownership that you have with them, you are then stealing their rights, and by definition, if one steals, then one is a thief.

[Viewpoint]

Again you are wrong, lets try to make it real simple....if we are both joint owners of a house then we both have rights to live in the house, the fact that a chain of events occured where we now can no longer stand each therefore we the TCs say lets share the rooms and not see each other but you the GCs say no and demand we either share the same rooms under your rules or that we leave the house all together, at one stage you even wanted to give the whole house to someone else without our agreement. So in reality we are not stealing here we are trying to let both sides live in the house without causing conflict or returning to the bad situation of the past...so no one is a thief but if you insist then both sides are the same....lets hear you say the GCs are thieves for stealing our recognition...you would die before admitting such a thing....this shows the flaws in your methodolgy and the fact that at no stage have you ever accepted that the GCs contributed and continue to contirbute to the division of today.

[Kikapu]

Again you are wrong, lets try to make it real simple....if we are both joint owners of a house then we both have rights to live in the house, the fact that a chain of events occured where we now can no longer can stand each therefore we the TCs say lets share the rooms and not see each other but you the GCs say no and demand we either share the same rooms under your rules or that we leave the house all together, at one stage you evenwanted to give the house to someone else. So we are not stealing here we are trying to let both sides us the house without causing conflict or returning to the bad situation of the past...so no one is a thief but if you insist then both sides are the same....lets hear you say the Gcs are thieves...you would die before admitting such a thing....this shows the flaws in your methodolgy and the fact that at no stage have you ever accepted that the GCs contributed and continue to contirbute to the dvision of today.

Even taking your house analogy into consideration, you are in the wrong, because you are making a unilateral decision over others rights to the house where that decision lies with ALL the legal owners and legal powers like the courts, because the courts would then decide the outcome of what happens to the house and it's owners, and in Cyprus's case, the UN has made the legal decision, which stated that the north is not legal. CASE CLOSED!

As for the rest of your comments, you are trying to divert attention and has nothing to do with your claim that one cannot steal something they own with others, which clearly you are wrong.

[DrCyprus]

Just to add that the Republic of Turkey has no rights to the house whatsoever.

[Viewpoint]

Just to add that the Republic of Turkey has no rights to the house whatsoever.

Have you heard of insurance?

[Viewpoint]

Again you are wrong, lets try to make it real simple....if we are both joint owners of a house then we both have rights to live in the house, the fact that a chain of events occured where we now can no longer can stand each therefore we the TCs say lets share the rooms and not see each other but you the GCs say no and demand we either share the same rooms under your rules or that we leave the house all together, at one stage you evenwanted to give the house to someone else. So we are not stealing here we are trying to let both sides us the house without causing conflict or returning to the bad situation of the past...so no one is a thief but if you insist then both sides are the same....lets hear you say the Gcs are thieves...you would die before admitting such a thing....this shows the flaws in your methodolgy and the fact that at no stage have you ever accepted that the GCs contributed and continue to contirbute to the dvision of today.

Even taking your house analogy into consideration, you are in the wrong, because you are making a unilateral decision over others rights to the house where that decision lies with ALL the legal owners and legal powers like the courts, because the courts would then decide the outcome of what happens to the house and it's owners, and in Cyprus's case, the UN has made the legal decision, which stated that the north is not legal. CASE CLOSED!

As for the rest of your comments, you are trying to divert attention and has nothing to do with your claim that one cannot steal something they own with others, which clearly you are wrong.

Thought so, you would never say the GCs are wrong let alone thieves for obvious reasons we have all come to expect but again you are of course totally wrong the UN (Mr Downer) is still trying to work out a solution so the Cyprus house case is not closed, the house is divided and the 2 occupants are living peacefully in their own rooms, both have rights and until or fi ever a solution is found the current divide will remain.

[Maximus]

Go back to your mothers house you gold digging lying manipulative bi-polar bitch!