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Another call for the return of Varosha to its legal owners...

Mustafa Akinci: Varosha must not be abandoned to dying anymore

Turkish Cypriot daily Havadis newspaper (26.08.13) reports that Mustafa Akinci, former “mayor” of the occupied part of Nicosia, “MP” and party chairman, has said that the occupied fenced city of Varosha must not be abandoned to dying anymore. In his first statements made after a long period of time, Akinci noted that the demand for opening the fenced Varosha should be examined and added that the door for the solution of the Cyprus problem could “open up” with this development.

Akinci went on and wondered: “Why we do not stop saying that Varosha is part of the comprehensive solution and evaluate it as a key which will open the door of the comprehensive solution?”

Akinci described as “striking” and “comprehensible” the results of the survey recently announced by the Initiative for Famagusta and noted that “people can see what is right”.

Recalling that when he was active in politics he was saying that “Varosha has become a place of snakes, centipedes and rats, but somehow it could not become a place of people”, Akinci added: “let it become a place of people, let a solution be produced, and let a step be taken on the issue of Varosha”.

He noted: “Varosha must not be abandoned to dying any more. 73% of the people of Famagusta want its opening. The Greek Cypriots would of course want this. It is not a wise thing to leave this issue hanging in the air for another 40 years. Varosha is at the same time a humanitarian issue. The Turkish Cypriots are experiencing the sorrow of living together with this. And think also the sorrow of those who have abandoned this place. Think also the business fields which will open here. Think the economic potential. There is an element that could be triggered from whichever point you look at it and we should go beyond the ordinary on this issue”.

http://www.cyprusexpat.co.uk/blog/read/ ... rus-opened

Can you remind us what support Mr Akinci got in the last elections?

[Demonax]

More support among Turkish Cypriots for the return of occupied Famagusta to its legal owners:

Occupied Famagusta's shopkeepers say Varosha must be returned to its legal owners

Turkish Cypriot daily Havadis newspaper (25.08.13) reported that the shopkeepers from the within the wall area of occupied Famagusta have expressed their strong support to the Initiative for Famagusta, which was established with the aim of producing a "peace project" in Cyprus and continuously keeps on the agenda the proposal of returning the occupied fenced city of Varosha to its legal Greek Cypriot owners.

In statements to Havadis, shopkeepers complained that for a long time now they have been closing their shops without even making a single sale and added that they have been eagerly waiting for the opening of Varosha for 40 years.

The shopkeepers said "let Varosha be opened regardless of who will be controlling it" and expressed the view that this development will contribute to the improvement of not only their area and occupied Famagusta, but to the economy of the "country" as well. They said that the opening of Varosha and its return to its real owners would create satisfaction in both sides of the island and will constitute a big step in the solution of the Cyprus problem.

via Cyprus PIO

[repulsewarrior]

indeed, like the formation of the IPO, blame was accepted. it is the same, Turkey can correct her own wrongs, it has nothing to do with the negotiations, or the Cyprus Problem, it is the recognition of fact from which an intention can be established, Cyprus a whole, Cypriots respected for what they are, not just "Turks", and "others", a People as proud.

you may demonstrate with all the examples you want, true, half-true, and out and out fabrications or lies, to make your point , that your hatred has a reason to grow (and that this enmity will last forever). but, we are Humans, and as Cypriots, as a majority (80%) which is Greek, the compromise was made, it is not up to you ("you") to ask for more than that (a BBF). it is up to you to act accordingly; i ask, are you Cypriot? would you be glad to live as in any country, an Individual, whether the part of a majority or minority, equal. and as well, being a Person having a means to self-representation that equals other Persons? as a Citizen of the World (because you were not born in Cyprus, although here you want to stay), can you not see that your responsibility is toward the rest of Mankind (before your own distinctive preferences)? you vp, seek recognition of a State, so that there is a Greek State and a Turkish State, essentially to leave things the way they are.

...what is wrong with one Republic, where if we are no different to Greece and Turkey, it is because Universal Principals are demonstrated by these States. and i suggest to you that we can as Cypriots choose to live in any one of many states as Cypriot Constituencies (bicommunally), this to you, it would seem to me, should be far more important than an airport, outside of the Republic's control impossible to "give".

...and anyway, you are doing just fine, if i am to believe what you say, (you need nothing from the Republic (if i am correct in my understanding of what you say)), it is a fine way to show goodwill, to just give back what you are not using (and that does not belong to "you").

[Viewpoint]

repulse you are again confused and lost, the majority which you yourself quote are the GCs and they reject your ideology...do you understand this? Do you know the difference between soverignty rights and individual personal property rights? we have stolen nothing we have a right to this country just as much as you do, if I am a theif thats makes you an even bigger thief as you have stolen 63% of the island.

Now you really have to get a grip on the fact that there is no unity between south and north, this will not just happen because you want it to, it take time for it to develop and for people to see and experience that unity is far better than living divided, all we have seen from unity are negative results....so why not just give us Ercan and Famagusta port with no strings, a sign of goodwill just as you ask of us?

[repulsewarrior]

...i am not confused and lost, it is you that insists to focus on "Greeks", as though anything not "Turkish" enough is foreign to you/"you", and an adversary.

i am suggesting that Turkey may choose to cut a loss (where she can gain), certainly they are doing this with their own regime in the north through its austerity, and the same (political) notions are changing in Turkey, what with the talks held with the Kurdish.

...Cypriots exist, despite your efforts not unlike a "Greek".

[repulsewarrior]

a sign of goodwill just as you ask of us

...again, vp, the only "us" i can imagine logical in this sentence, is not a Cypriot, or a person of Turkish origin, it can only come from a "Turk"; what are you?

[Viewpoint]

a sign of goodwill just as you ask of us

...again, vp, the only "us" i can imagine logical in this sentence, is not a Cypriot, or a person of Turkish origin, it can only come from a "Turk"; what are you?

Why do you keep getting stuck on the we us they bullshit? deal with real issue...there are 2 sides here the north is us and south is you now please try and work it out we do not have time for slackers.

[Demonax]

i am suggesting that Turkey may choose to cut a loss (where she can gain), certainly they are doing this with their own regime in the north through its austerity, and the same (political) notions are changing in Turkey, what with the talks held with the Kurdish.

Repulse, you are scaring VP with all this talk of Turkey cutting deals. You know his greatest fear is a Cyprus solution in exchange for us selling some of our gas to Turkey. Turks are going to need to plug their huge current account deficit - which is mainly made up of energy costs.

You’re likely to give him nightmares!

[Viewpoint]

i am suggesting that Turkey may choose to cut a loss (where she can gain), certainly they are doing this with their own regime in the north through its austerity, and the same (political) notions are changing in Turkey, what with the talks held with the Kurdish.

Repulse, you are scaring VP with all this talk of Turkey cutting deals. You know his greatest fear is a Cyprus solution in exchange for us selling some of our gas to Turkey. Turks are going to need to plug their huge current account deficit - which is mainly made up of energy costs.

You’re likely to give him nightmares!

Now thats a great joke

[Kikapu]

repulse you are again confused and lost, the majority which you yourself quote are the GCs and they reject your ideology...do you understand this? Do you know the difference between soverignty rights and individual personal property rights? we have stolen nothing we have a right to this country just as much as you do, if I am a theif thats makes you an even bigger thief as you have stolen 63% of the island.

Now you really have to get a grip on the fact that there is no unity between south and north, this will not just happen because you want it to, it take time for it to develop and for people to see and experience that unity is far better than living divided, all we have seen from unity are negative results....so why not just give us Ercan and Famagusta port with no strings, a sign of goodwill just as you ask of us?

You can ONLY not steal something if that something entirely belongs to you as an individual, otherwise, YES, you can steal something if it belongs to you and others at the same time. I have many times given you examples of one parent stealing/ kidnapping his/her child, because the child has been taken away from the other parent against their wishes. Now do you get it.... again?