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[DT.]

Where are the Armenians and Maronites? Well an Armenian is leader of one of the biggest parties in cyprus and a Maronite is minister of the most influential ministry this government has.

[B25]

Careful reh, you might just make VP bust a vein.

[kimon07]

Where are the Armenians and Maronites? Well an Armenian is leader of one of the biggest parties in cyprus and a Maronite is minister of the most influential ministry this government has.

OH...! They must be "consumed" immediately. Eh VP?

[kimon07]

Speaking of Cypriot Maronites:

Firstly, a piece of advice to characters like VP and Lordo.

For your own good, next time the propaganda bureau of your shitty regime gives you a shitty propaganda text and asks you to post it in this forum, take some time to research the subject a bit before you plunge into indignity and ridicule like, for instance, what happened to Lordo with his argument that Cyprus is the only country in the world with two official languages.

Now, let us come to the issue of the Maronites of Cyprus and the shitty “trnc” allegation of their “consumption” by the Greek Cypriots. As usual, I will let the Maronites speak for themselves:

1. The Maronite Community today.

Following the Turkish invasion in 1974, the Maronites became refugees whereas a small number remained enclaved in the three Maronite villages of Kormakitis, Asomatos and Karpashia. In 1975 there were 979 enclaved Maronites; today there are 120 enclaved people in Kormakitis, 11 in Karpashia and only two octogenarian women in Asomatos. The village of Asomatos is presently used as a military camp and the Maronites are allowed to visit the village only on Sundays, with limited time restrictions, for mass in the Church of St. Michael the Archangel. The Maronite village of Ayia Marina is also used as a military camp and access is not allowed to the village, despite the relaxations in April 2003. Turkish military personnel live in certain houses in Karpashia.
http://www.maronitesofcyprus.com/cgibin ... -V=history

2. The Maronite Community

After the Turkish occupation, the Turkish authorities issued certain regulations governing the living conditions of Maronites. These regulations, however, were gradually revoked and more stringent restrictions were imposed relating to freedom of movement and communication with the free areas of Cyprus, adequate medical care and job opportunities. Furthermore, there is no secondary education in the occupied areas, and in general living conditions are below standard. Continuous representations were made to the Turkish authorities on behalf of the enclaved Maronite population by the leaders of the community and UN officials but unfortunately without any success. On the contrary, instead of the restrictions being slackened, they became tighter and the majority of villagers, mainly the youth, have been obliged to leave their homes and come to the free areas as refugees. The number of persons left behind, has steadily decreased from 2.000 in December 1974 to 137 persons today, who are of an average age of 70 and over.

For several years after 1974, the Maronites from the occupied areas lived in refugee camps, in rented houses and in houses of relatives and friends living in the south, as did Greek Cypriot refugees from the north. They remained for a long time without churches and schools. With Government assistance they now have enough churches in Nicosia and Limassol and one elementary school in Nicosia.

In losing their villages the Maronites lost their social nucleus from which for centuries they drew their strength to maintain their religion and their identity. Now all their villages are under Turkish occupation and control and Maronites must pay the required crossing fees to visit their villages for limited periods. In spite of these difficulties, however, the Maronites are working hard to maintain their religion, language and culture.
Main source:
The Journal of Maronite Studies
http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... enDocument


3. A Message from the Representative of the Maronite Religious Group in the House of Representatives, Mr Antonis Haji Roussos
Dear reader,

The publication you hold in your hands presents, in brief, the Maronite community of
Cyprus: its history, its cultural identity, its presence and its contribution to Cypriot
society.

The history of the Maronites is a story of persecution and of the struggle of the
Maronites to preserve their faith, their freedom and their very existence.

Cyprus was their refuge in the late 7th century when, because of Arab raids in Syria, they
immigrated to the island. Today the Maronites of Cyprus are refugees again, as a
occupation, a result of the 1974 invasion of Cyprus by Turkey. All of the island’s Maronite villages (Asomatos, Ayia Marina, Karpasha and Kormakitis) are still under Turkish military occupation.The most serious problem the Maronite community of Cyprus faces is its survival as an entity and the preservation of its identity.

The community underwent a radical change as a result of the 1974 invasion of Cyprus by Turkey and the forcible dislocation and detachment of the Maronites from their villages and, consequently, their churches and schools. Since 1974, the Maronites of Cyprus have been struggling for their survival.

With the support of the government of Cyprus, however, and an intensive effort on the part of the Maronites themselves, the Maronites today constitute an organised community, active in the cultural, social and financial sectors of our homeland.

Nevertheless, the Maronites’ desire remains to return to their villages and to coexist harmoniously with all of the island’s diverse communities in a reunited homeland.
VID:
4. The Maronites of Cyprus are struggling for their Rights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZtNhZpgptc

You was saying VP????

[repulsewarrior]

...i am grateful to you kimon, the facts are what is needed, the truth is what we should ask for, and be seeking, to decide. (thank-you vp, a genius, or some kind of pathological supremacist, for stimulating this debate) strong words and better than the usual idiocy we may speak when it seems we fail ourselves, by repeating indefensible lies.

...indeed, "this", must stop. (Imperialism by Language)

...or if we define ourselves as Individuals, Cypriots, we must decide to stop the ethnographic disaster, as Persons (divided) we all face, (in Cyprus) across the world.

@vp, et.al., we see Greeks representing the Republic very well (as an overwhelming majority), "you" (especially vp) looking around at what's "normal", and demanding "any others" to look at "it" as normal too, at this point look very poor. and what hasn't been plundered, or is occupied by the Turkish Army, is a shit hole, we are witness to that in many topics. of course you would imagine "their side" worse, friend, i ask you to challenge yourself, you are better than that, you do create a dialog from which a better sense of what is right evolves; and what of the dogma of being "Turkish enough", look where it has lead you, why not question this Authority?

[repulsewarrior]

What are you on about repulse? Are you using some sort of translation site as your last post is incomprehensible.

frankly you don't think. and if you were a better Turk, you could see the beauty in my words.

[Viewpoint]

Speaking of Cypriot Maronites:

Firstly, a piece of advice to characters like VP and Lordo.

For your own good, next time the propaganda bureau of your shitty regime gives you a shitty propaganda text and asks you to post it in this forum, take some time to research the subject a bit before you plunge into indignity and ridicule like, for instance, what happened to Lordo with his argument that Cyprus is the only country in the world with two official languages.

Now, let us come to the issue of the Maronites of Cyprus and the shitty “trnc” allegation of their “consumption” by the Greek Cypriots. As usual, I will let the Maronites speak for themselves:

1. The Maronite Community today.

Following the Turkish invasion in 1974, the Maronites became refugees whereas a small number remained enclaved in the three Maronite villages of Kormakitis, Asomatos and Karpashia. In 1975 there were 979 enclaved Maronites; today there are 120 enclaved people in Kormakitis, 11 in Karpashia and only two octogenarian women in Asomatos. The village of Asomatos is presently used as a military camp and the Maronites are allowed to visit the village only on Sundays, with limited time restrictions, for mass in the Church of St. Michael the Archangel. The Maronite village of Ayia Marina is also used as a military camp and access is not allowed to the village, despite the relaxations in April 2003. Turkish military personnel live in certain houses in Karpashia.
http://www.maronitesofcyprus.com/cgibin ... -V=history

2. The Maronite Community

After the Turkish occupation, the Turkish authorities issued certain regulations governing the living conditions of Maronites. These regulations, however, were gradually revoked and more stringent restrictions were imposed relating to freedom of movement and communication with the free areas of Cyprus, adequate medical care and job opportunities. Furthermore, there is no secondary education in the occupied areas, and in general living conditions are below standard. Continuous representations were made to the Turkish authorities on behalf of the enclaved Maronite population by the leaders of the community and UN officials but unfortunately without any success. On the contrary, instead of the restrictions being slackened, they became tighter and the majority of villagers, mainly the youth, have been obliged to leave their homes and come to the free areas as refugees. The number of persons left behind, has steadily decreased from 2.000 in December 1974 to 137 persons today, who are of an average age of 70 and over.

For several years after 1974, the Maronites from the occupied areas lived in refugee camps, in rented houses and in houses of relatives and friends living in the south, as did Greek Cypriot refugees from the north. They remained for a long time without churches and schools. With Government assistance they now have enough churches in Nicosia and Limassol and one elementary school in Nicosia.

In losing their villages the Maronites lost their social nucleus from which for centuries they drew their strength to maintain their religion and their identity. Now all their villages are under Turkish occupation and control and Maronites must pay the required crossing fees to visit their villages for limited periods. In spite of these difficulties, however, the Maronites are working hard to maintain their religion, language and culture.
Main source:
The Journal of Maronite Studies
http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... enDocument


3. A Message from the Representative of the Maronite Religious Group in the House of Representatives, Mr Antonis Haji Roussos
Dear reader,

The publication you hold in your hands presents, in brief, the Maronite community of
Cyprus: its history, its cultural identity, its presence and its contribution to Cypriot
society.

The history of the Maronites is a story of persecution and of the struggle of the
Maronites to preserve their faith, their freedom and their very existence.

Cyprus was their refuge in the late 7th century when, because of Arab raids in Syria, they
immigrated to the island. Today the Maronites of Cyprus are refugees again, as a
occupation, a result of the 1974 invasion of Cyprus by Turkey. All of the island’s Maronite villages (Asomatos, Ayia Marina, Karpasha and Kormakitis) are still under Turkish military occupation.The most serious problem the Maronite community of Cyprus faces is its survival as an entity and the preservation of its identity.

The community underwent a radical change as a result of the 1974 invasion of Cyprus by Turkey and the forcible dislocation and detachment of the Maronites from their villages and, consequently, their churches and schools. Since 1974, the Maronites of Cyprus have been struggling for their survival.

With the support of the government of Cyprus, however, and an intensive effort on the part of the Maronites themselves, the Maronites today constitute an organised community, active in the cultural, social and financial sectors of our homeland.

Nevertheless, the Maronites’ desire remains to return to their villages and to coexist harmoniously with all of the island’s diverse communities in a reunited homeland.
VID:
4. The Maronites of Cyprus are struggling for their Rights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZtNhZpgptc

You was saying VP????

Do you think these people can voice the real situation they are like all minorities consumed and fear reprisals from your domineering and discriminating system operated by racists, which in time will guarantee these people disappear becoming GCs. We make no such claims these people made their choice siding with the GCs they haven given up their claims to wanting anything more than being a disappearing minority in a GC state which we will never be. Therein is the big difference for all those clever enough to see and understand it, we will never give up our rights for a minority position in a revenge seeking and racist GC state.

[Viewpoint]

...i am grateful to you kimon, the facts are what is needed, the truth is what we should ask for, and be seeking, to decide. (thank-you vp, a genius, or some kind of pathological supremacist, for stimulating this debate) strong words and better than the usual idiocy we may speak when it seems we fail ourselves, by repeating indefensible lies.

...indeed, "this", must stop. (Imperialism by Language)

...or if we define ourselves as Individuals, Cypriots, we must decide to stop the ethnographic disaster, as Persons (divided) we all face, (in Cyprus) across the world.

@vp, et.al., we see Greeks representing the Republic very well (as an overwhelming majority), "you" (especially vp) looking around at what's "normal", and demanding "any others" to look at "it" as normal too, at this point look very poor. and what hasn't been plundered, or is occupied by the Turkish Army, is a shit hole, we are witness to that in many topics. of course you would imagine "their side" worse, friend, i ask you to challenge yourself, you are better than that, you do create a dialog from which a better sense of what is right evolves; and what of the dogma of being "Turkish enough", look where it has lead you, why not question this Authority?

You have nothing better to offer the south is a shit hole with sugar on it, your bankrupt and only the gas may save you otherwise the TRNC with all its problems is a far better option than what you have to offer.

[DrCyprus]

You have nothing better to offer the south is a shit hole with sugar on it, your bankrupt and only the gas may save you otherwise the TRNC with all its problems is a far better option than what you have to offer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BZOKxgv2uE

[kimon07]

Do you think these people can voice the real situation they are like all minorities consumed and fear reprisals from your domineering and discriminating system operated by racists, which in time will guarantee these people disappear becoming GCs......bla...bla....bla...and bla.

VP, you are being delirious just like I intended.

Now then, if you insist that we are “consuming” the Maronites, why don’t you let them come back to their villages so that they will be saved and protected by the all mighty TA and so that they will be able to "voice the real situation" and expose us to the rest of the world?

As for them and the Armenians having made their choices, you are damn right. They chose to be equal and law abiding citizens of the one and only Republic of Cyprus and to prosper and thrive in it as EU citizens.