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[Lordo]

i gather that charluis are good at maths lets to an execise shall we.
how much have been claimed in the last 40 years = 0
divide 37 by 0 and you will have how long it will take to to claimit back.


this damn machine it say you are a #div/0!

even excel knows how thick you charluis are.

[bill cobbett]

Is that you Lordo...???

Didn't recognise you with all those bits missing from you.

Have you been swimming off Occupied Vokolida again...???

[Oceanside50]

Turkish Cypriot columnist argues that Varosha has been seriously put on the table for the first time in the last 39 years

Our government would be very foolish to accept a portion of the occupied territory because the enemy will then assume that it’s all hanky dory hanging onto the rest!

I'm with you on this one mate. Exactly my thoughts.

I agree too...not only will they think all is honky dory but most of our idiots will think the same

[bill cobbett]

Turkish Cypriot columnist argues that Varosha has been seriously put on the table for the first time in the last 39 years

Our government would be very foolish to accept a portion of the occupied territory because the enemy will then assume that it’s all hanky dory hanging onto the rest!

I'm with you on this one mate. Exactly my thoughts.

I agree too...not only will they think all is honky dory but most of our idiots will think the same

Well, there are an awful lot of idiots around boys and girls.

Most prominent amongst the idiots are Davutoglu and Eroglu of "trnc" , both of who joined a lot of other idiots in turning down the proposal of separating Occupied Varosi from the wider issue some days ago.

[Demonax]

Naturally Occupied Varosi won't be the end of things for many, many of us... there will still remain the reclamation of places like Morphou and the Karpas and all places in-between.

... and this much wider campaign will be helped once the Varoshiotes are able to return cos for the first time they'll be able to give the world a first-hand and close-up account of the levels of destruction and thefts caused by the Turkish Occupier to that town, rather than the from a distance, from the other side of a fence view that we've had for nearly 40 years.

I'm with bill on this one. The issue of the return of Varosha is separate from a wider settlement. In fact, its whole point is to open up the possibility of a settlement by obliging Turkey to show good will. It doesn’t in itself change the status of the ROC. In fact it strengthens it by forcing Turkey to accept the Ankara Protocol and obliges the occupied areas to trade through Famagusta port under EU supervision. It allows the TCs to trade legally with the EU without compromising the sovereignty of the ROC.

And for that reason I think Turkey will reject a deal. Because Erdogan isn’t interested in the sovereignty of Cyprus but in domination and legalised partition. That has always been their aim.

[Viewpoint]

Without Ercan in the equation its a dead duck...no deal.

[repulsewarrior]

simples vp, you give back Famagusta in good will, and the next round give back some more after having demonstrated that you respect EU supervision, and you recognise a Protocol where Cyprus exists, then ask about an upgrade of your so called Ercan.

[Viewpoint]

simples vp, you give back Famagusta in good will, and the next round give back some more after having demonstrated that you respect EU supervision, and you recognise a Protocol where Cyprus exists, then ask about an upgrade of your so called Ercan.

So in short trust you to do the right thing...lets gets this straight we give you a city and we get a supervised port...doesnt seem balanced to me very one sided and exposed to GC manipulation.....dont you get it there is no trust between the 2 sides.

[bill cobbett]

Naturally Occupied Varosi won't be the end of things for many, many of us... there will still remain the reclamation of places like Morphou and the Karpas and all places in-between.

... and this much wider campaign will be helped once the Varoshiotes are able to return cos for the first time they'll be able to give the world a first-hand and close-up account of the levels of destruction and thefts caused by the Turkish Occupier to that town, rather than the from a distance, from the other side of a fence view that we've had for nearly 40 years.

I'm with bill on this one. The issue of the return of Varosha is separate from a wider settlement. In fact, its whole point is to open up the possibility of a settlement by obliging Turkey to show good will. It doesn’t in itself change the status of the ROC. In fact it strengthens it by forcing Turkey to accept the Ankara Protocol and obliges the occupied areas to trade through Famagusta port under EU supervision. It allows the TCs to trade legally with the EU without compromising the sovereignty of the ROC.

And for that reason I think Turkey will reject a deal. Because Erdogan isn’t interested in the sovereignty of Cyprus but in domination and legalised partition. That has always been their aim.

Excellent post if you don't mind BillC saying so Demon.

The other thing the less idiotic and more more devious amongst would have appreciated weeks ago about this "deal" was that Turkey would never have shown the good will that Demon refers to.

Turkey ... along with its puppet "trnc" , as well as the likes of VP and Vordo, were 100% certain to turn it down.

They were bound to show the same Bad Will that we've seen for 60+ years... didn't we all know that, FFS...!!!

Further, hasn't it been a sorely-missed chance to show some Unity knowing full well that the proposal was a no-risk one cos it was bound to be turned down...???

[Viewpoint]

Its like saying give us recognition in goodwill knowing it will be turned down....give us a break you drunk chav.

No Ercan no deal.