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[Demonax]

So you no longer have a constitution do you really understand what you are saying without a constitution the "roc" is null and void. Our rights cannot be erased unilaterally thats why we are a party to any future solution with our weight being equal to yours at 50% without which you cannot unite the island. İsnt it time you realized that you are not alone on this island and that you cannot steam roll over us to get what you want, you have been unsucessful for 39 years but you still insist on the same stupid politics to take away our rights.

You do make me laugh, VP. You cannot declare a breakaway state then claim you still have full rights in the state you have broken away from! You renounced your rights unilaterally under Turkey's orders. No-one took them away from you but yourselves. Now you are well and truly screwed. No rights in the ROC and 'citizens' of an unrecognised, pseudo-state.

Meanwhile Turkey has undermined the TCs in the north by importing settlers and dictating policy – so that TCs have no say even in the breakaway state.

Could things be any worse for the TCs? You need to be a bit more realistic about your predicament and a bit more humble when dealing with the ROC - you are in no position to dictate terms to us.

[Lordo]

who said anything about dictating policy of groc. you do what you like my friend but if you do somethoing we do not like dont expect us to take part. it really is not that complicated.

[Demonax]

who said anything about dictating policy of groc. you do what you like my friend but if you do somethoing we do not like dont expect us to take part. it really is not that complicated.

Lordo, you are a twit. This comment makes no sense even by your very low standards.

[Maximus]

So you no longer have a constitution do you really understand what you are saying without a constitution the "roc" is null and void. Our rights cannot be erased unilaterally thats why we are a party to any future solution with our weight being equal to yours at 50% without which you cannot unite the island. İsnt it time you realized that you are not alone on this island and that you cannot steam roll over us to get what you want, you have been unsucessful for 39 years but you still insist on the same stupid politics to take away our rights.

You do make me laugh, VP. You cannot declare a breakaway state then claim you still have full rights in the state you have broken away from! You renounced your rights unilaterally under Turkey's orders. No-one took them away from you but yourselves. Now you are well and truly screwed. No rights in the ROC and 'citizens' of an unrecognised, pseudo-state.

Meanwhile Turkey has undermined the TCs in the north by importing settlers and dictating policy – so that TCs have no say even in the breakaway state.

Could things be any worse for the TCs? You need to be a bit more realistic about your predicament and a bit more humble when dealing with the ROC - you are in no position to dictate terms to us.

VP & Co are not right in the head Demonax.

The politics of the illegal regime in the north is 'not right in the head' either. The "TRNC" must be dismantled, otherwise it will be like dealing with a sociopathic by-polar stalking ex-girlfriend, forever.

The "TRNC" must be dismantled and a lot of people have to go. This is the only way to move forwards as I see it.

[repulsewarrior]

splitting the island in two is an idea older than ENOSIS, it was ideas like these which provoked a reaction, where island dwellers expressed their own desire.

...but, as we know, Enosis did happen, because it is a good idea, hence the membership into the EU, but, not as "Greeks", as Europeans.

...and i may say that there is a Cypriot path to all this, you must try it, vp. join me, or someone like Kikapu, because if you love Cyprus you can grasp the opportunity it represents to us as Individuals, not "Turks", not "Greeks"; how great is that. i will say it again, ask, "where (is)are the Cypriot Constituencies?" and if we are Bicommunal, where is the State?

...enosis is a good idea now.

enosis you strived for was not union within the eu but a gifting of Cyprus to Greece so that Cyprus just becomes another Greek island that is not a good enosis if so then union with Turkey is also a good idea what do you think?

security, this is the issue, then, and now.

...only an enosis with Turkey will satisfy you, vp (it seems), it must be very frustrating for you that you cannot vote in Turkey's elections. indeed, i have proposed a Treaty of Mutual Defense between Turkey and Cyprus, as crazy as it sounds, if you think about it, it changes the face of regional power, what with the largest Maritime power, and the region's largest Navy, one; but of course a Cyprus would have to exist for that to happen.

...as a backwater, and an Army barrack, "you" are what suits your master. but you, can change.

[Demonax]

Cyprus president pushes return of Famagusta

President Anastasiades has said that the Cyprus talks could resume only when conditions are such that they would lead to tangible results.

The President said that the economic crisis Cyprus is currently facing does not distract the state from its major objective, which is a just and viable solution of the Cyprus problem.

“Our determination for a solution is strong and preparations for the resumption of the talks continue," he said, in his speech, which was read out by the Minister of Labor and Social Insurance Zeta Emilianidou.

He said that talks will resume when conditions are ripe and will allow substantive negotiations to take place, which in turn will lead to tangible results.

The President recalled the Greek Cypriot side’s proposal for the return Famagusta to its lawful citizens and the use of the town’s port for exports to European Union countries.

Another measure that would help build bridges of trust and cooperation, he said, is the implementation of the Ankara Protocol, as well as the opening of the frozen EU – Turkey negotiating chapters which have been blocked following a decision by the European Council.

The above moves, he said, would create a win –win situation for all sides.

http://famagusta-gazette.com/cyprus-pre ... 005-69.htm

[Viewpoint]

Cyprus president pushes return of Famagusta

President Anastasiades has said that the Cyprus talks could resume only when conditions are such that they would lead to tangible results.

The President said that the economic crisis Cyprus is currently facing does not distract the state from its major objective, which is a just and viable solution of the Cyprus problem.

“Our determination for a solution is strong and preparations for the resumption of the talks continue," he said, in his speech, which was read out by the Minister of Labor and Social Insurance Zeta Emilianidou.

He said that talks will resume when conditions are ripe and will allow substantive negotiations to take place, which in turn will lead to tangible results.

The President recalled the Greek Cypriot side’s proposal for the return Famagusta to its lawful citizens and the use of the town’s port for exports to European Union countries.

Another measure that would help build bridges of trust and cooperation, he said, is the implementation of the Ankara Protocol, as well as the opening of the frozen EU – Turkey negotiating chapters which have been blocked following a decision by the European Council.

The above moves, he said, would create a win –win situation for all sides.

http://famagusta-gazette.com/cyprus-pre ... 005-69.htm

Which circus did this clown escape from? a whole city for 1 port under EU supervision, fuck off hes stalling, this nazi look alike brings nothing new to the table.

[Viewpoint]

So you no longer have a constitution do you really understand what you are saying without a constitution the "roc" is null and void. Our rights cannot be erased unilaterally thats why we are a party to any future solution with our weight being equal to yours at 50% without which you cannot unite the island. İsnt it time you realized that you are not alone on this island and that you cannot steam roll over us to get what you want, you have been unsucessful for 39 years but you still insist on the same stupid politics to take away our rights.

You do make me laugh, VP. You cannot declare a breakaway state then claim you still have full rights in the state you have broken away from! You renounced your rights unilaterally under Turkey's orders. No-one took them away from you but yourselves. Now you are well and truly screwed. No rights in the ROC and 'citizens' of an unrecognised, pseudo-state.

Meanwhile Turkey has undermined the TCs in the north by importing settlers and dictating policy – so that TCs have no say even in the breakaway state.

Could things be any worse for the TCs? You need to be a bit more realistic about your predicament and a bit more humble when dealing with the ROC - you are in no position to dictate terms to us.

We can declare what we want whether its recognized by the world is another matter altogether. Now when it come to the issue of our rights, if you claim the "RoC" continues then you are ones keeping our rights alive so when we claim them why are you surprised? declare to the world they are null and void so we can all move on but of course you cannot do this as surely as day follows night the TRNC would be automatically recognized.

Now when addressing the assimilation with Turkey well we accept this as its far better than what you have to offer...whats so hard to understand? we can have what you offer tomorrow by moving south but we dont must tell you a lot about how you are viewed but no GCs are immune to seeing their own mistakes or accepting blame....your denial gene is very strong.

You need to piece of humble pie when dealing with TCs full stop.

[Demonax]

We can declare what we want whether its recognized by the world is another matter altogether.

You said it!

[Flying Horse]

Not read the 32 pages of debate....

But


Just negotiating one part of the Island isn't good enough, its like dangling a carrot, then taking it away after you get what you want. Which cynical me, would be inclined to think this is all about. Erdogan planning a visit too...all too convenient if you ask me.


What about Morphou* and everywhere else?

*You know, that area(more importantly Zodhia) where Mister Turkish General got a bit carried away and took anyway. I'd like my land back please with bells and whistles on too.....and while they are at it, Asil Nadir can give me some of that profit he made out of my families melon and citrus groves **

I don't like reading this sort of thing, theres always some backhanded, hand rubbing going on behind the scenes, and the public at large never benefit.

**Theres a tale in itself, its so hilariously tall, it could actually be true!