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Re: Deal Over Occupied Famagusta...???

Postby Demonax » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:23 pm

Here you go...

Government has made concrete proposals for a breakthrough in the Cyprus issue, Ambassador Emiliou says

Cyprus Government , in order to build a climate of trust for which the bicommunal talks to commence, has made concrete proposals which, if accepted, will give us the opportunity of a breakthrough on the situation in Cyprus and quick progress in the talks, Permanent Representative to the UN, Ambassador Nicholas Emiliou has said.

Emiliou briefed the foreign press correspondents to the UN on the situation as regard the Cyprus issue, the economic crisis and the imminent renewal of UNFICYP.

In his statements on the Cyprus problem and referring to the government’s proposals, the Ambassador said that one of those proposals concerns placing the city of Famagusta under U.N. administration for the eventual resettlement by its lawful inhabitants, in conjunction with the use of the port of Famagusta for trade purposes by all Cypriots.

It also concerns lifting Cyprus’ objections for a number of negotiating chapters in Turkey’s accession negotiations to the European Union and the implementation by Turkey of its obligations under the Ankara protocol.

“We hope to have a positive response from Ankara on this proposal which has been welcomed by many quarters internationally”, the Ambassador said.

He also added that given the difficult financial situation in Cyprus which has necessitated urgent and decisive action by the new government of Cyprus, the start of the talks had to be moved at a later part of this year.

http://famagusta-gazette.com/government ... 789-69.htm
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Re: Deal Over Occupied Famagusta...???

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:40 pm

fantastic. and we make a counter proposal, we give you tip of karpaz and open ercan.

both can play stupid games.
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Re: Deal Over Occupied Famagusta...???

Postby kurupetos » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:09 pm

Lordo wrote:fantastic. and we make a counter proposal, we give you tip of karpaz and open ercan.

both can play stupid games.

No, open your *ss and I will give you c*ck.
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Re: Deal Over Occupied Famagusta...???

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:53 pm

...in this proposal Cypriots gain, while Turkey loses nothing.
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Re: Deal Over Occupied Famagusta...???

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:05 pm

Demonax wrote:Here you go...

Government has made concrete proposals for a breakthrough in the Cyprus issue, Ambassador Emiliou says

Cyprus Government , in order to build a climate of trust for which the bicommunal talks to commence, has made concrete proposals which, if accepted, will give us the opportunity of a breakthrough on the situation in Cyprus and quick progress in the talks, Permanent Representative to the UN, Ambassador Nicholas Emiliou has said.

Emiliou briefed the foreign press correspondents to the UN on the situation as regard the Cyprus issue, the economic crisis and the imminent renewal of UNFICYP.

In his statements on the Cyprus problem and referring to the government’s proposals, the Ambassador said that one of those proposals concerns placing the city of Famagusta under U.N. administration for the eventual resettlement by its lawful inhabitants, in conjunction with the use of the port of Famagusta for trade purposes by all Cypriots.

It also concerns lifting Cyprus’ objections for a number of negotiating chapters in Turkey’s accession negotiations to the European Union and the implementation by Turkey of its obligations under the Ankara protocol.

“We hope to have a positive response from Ankara on this proposal which has been welcomed by many quarters internationally”, the Ambassador said.

He also added that given the difficult financial situation in Cyprus which has necessitated urgent and decisive action by the new government of Cyprus, the start of the talks had to be moved at a later part of this year.

http://famagusta-gazette.com/government ... 789-69.htm


Yes but..no but ... yes... there it is again ...

..."Famagusta under U.N. administration for the eventual resettlement by its lawful inhabitants,..."

What use is that to the Varoshotes...??? There has to be a time limit specified and a pretty short one...!!!
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Re: Deal Over Occupied Famagusta...???

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:02 am

...an honest survey is needed, other plans for infrastructure will evolve, we hope with transparency and respect, for the native inhabitants. it is possible that with the good offices of the UN, new thinking and the best minds, may be applied to demonstrate something that can evolve toward better uses of water and waste collection systems, lighting, etc. (or a harbor which represents the state of the art for inter-modal transportation). indeed, my worst nightmare, another so called Sovereign State, occupying Cypriot land, hotels, barracks, and even atomic weapons (because by then we are NATO members).
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Re: Deal Over Occupied Famagusta...???

Postby B25 » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:44 am

Demonax wrote:In his statements on the Cyprus problem and referring to the government’s proposals, the Ambassador said that one of those proposals concerns placing the city of Famagusta under U.N. administration for the eventual resettlement by its lawful inhabitants, in conjunction with the use of the port of Famagusta for trade purposes by all Cypriots.


Yeah, that's right, let the stupid Varoshotes go back, pay to have everything built as new, then watch the Turks walk back in and take it. Great plan. With arseholes like this at the helm, who needs enemies. Turks cannot be trusted, period. Under UN, EU, NATO or any other selection of letters, because in the end there is no onw with balls to deal with Turkey when she steps out of line.

The City of Famagusta, should be handed back when a total settlement plan has been agreed, that must include All Turkish troops out, all Settlers out, a cessation of any guarantor rights, (ha ha this is funny) and return of all properties to their rightful owners. Any thin less than this means the same troubles as in the 60's.

It is high time our side politicians pulled their finger out and dealt more harshly with the Turks otherwise we shall remain in this position for ever.
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Re: Deal Over Occupied Famagusta...???

Postby Maximus » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:38 pm

To be fair, Turkey should return Famagusta to the RoC unconditionally along with compensation.

If she does not do this by October,

1. the talks will start in bad faith and likely result in not reaching an agreement, again.
2. Turkey puts a stop to her EU accession process as this will be a condition to open chapter 22.
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Re: Deal Over Occupied Famagusta...???

Postby Lordo » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:47 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...in this proposal Cypriots gain, while Turkey loses nothing.

rw you are wrong. with this deal gcs gain and tcs get fuck all. the famgusta port is already open to the world trade. it is not like ercan where it was declared closed by roc. what a lot of crap. this has been offered in the past and turned down. what is the purpose of making such a proposal other than create more animosity between the cypriots.

you guys are all fast asleep walking to the cliff of separation.
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Re: Deal Over Occupied Famagusta...???

Postby Demonax » Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:26 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...in this proposal Cypriots gain, while Turkey loses nothing.


True. All Cypriots gain because it returns the town of Varosha to its rightful inhabitants. Only morons like Lordo and VP believe it's right to extract concessions by depriving people of their homes and property. This deal would kickstart negotiations towards re-unifying the island which would benefit all Cypriots. And Turkey would gain too because it would allow it to open its EU chapters.

The problem is that Erdogan and the AKP need a reason to reject the deal, not because of direct flights (which they know we will not allow) but because they don’t want to join the EU (they want an Islamic republic).

By asking for direct flights TCs are doing Erdogan’s dirty work for him and scuppering talks to re-unify the island. TCs should be bending over backwards to call Erdogan’s bluff on Cyprus not repeating idiotic demands which always lead to an impasse.

TCs need to stop being Erdogan’s fool and stand up for themselves. Otherwise it shouldn’t surprise anyone that no-one takes the TCs seriously (especially Turkey) and treats them with contempt.
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