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[tsukoui]

I gave up reading Mathaba after they started claiming that Gaddafi wasn't dead. Gaddafi was a complex figure. I gave him a lot of credit for bridging the "racial" divide. Gaddafi's discourse was seen as insane by many "Whites" who have never tried to interface with non-"White" discourse. If you compare the discourse within different so called "racial" groups you will see the divide is great indeed. I challenge any "White" to bridge such a discourse in a saner way than Gaddafi did. One of his best ideas was the creation of a Mediterranean Union between North Africa and Mediterranean Europe. This would overlap both the African Union and the European Union without covering fully both. The Germans among others balked at this idea as dividing Europe and instead counter proposed an extension of the European Union to overlap North Africa. Whereas Gaddafi's original idea would have lead to an erosion of "racial" differences, the German proposal is a blatantly "White" supremacist idea which can only lead to the separation of Africa into, as Gaddafi said, "a White Africa and a Black Africa". It should be resisted.

Anyway, to return to Mathaba, it has recently published the following article comparing Hellenistic attitudes to those of the Qu'ran. I invite all Hellenists to respond.

The Signs of God: Third Universal Perspective Part 3

"The Holy Qur’an marked a revolution against this heterophobia on the one hand and on the other hand, it marked a revolution of the kind of asceticism prevalent in medieval feudal Europe.

Iqbal rejected Platonism as an opium which seduces tigers into eating grass. He pointed out that the spirit of the Qur’an was essentially anti-classical.

Hellenism was entirely alien to the spirit of the Qur’an.

The spirit of Hellenism, whether in its Platonic form – which distorted and demolished the anti-classical spirit of the Christian religion since the very outset – has re-asserted itself in the postmodern civilization. The only difference consists in the degree of cynicism, which is much greater this time. In fact, the problem today is far more acute."

http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=632973

[GreekIslandGirl]

Hellenism was entirely alien to the spirit of the Qur’an.

Hellenism is not a response to the quran book.

[tsukoui]

Hellenism was entirely alien to the spirit of the Qur’an.

Hellenism is not a response to the quran book.

Good response. Personally I think the author has a very narrow view of Hellenism. Athens at the time he quotes is not Hellenism. To give one obvious example, the author ignores the Pythagoreans with their equality of the sexes. Here is a video about Ancient Greek Warrior Women:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLecw7J0VlQ

[Get Real!]

Hellenism is a delusion of grandeur and there’s really nothing else to say about it…

[tsukoui]

Hellenism is a delusion of grandeur and there’s really nothing else to say about it…

Possibly you are right GR, certainly that's how it is used by many on this forum. But I'm interested in what you think of the article.

[Oceanside50]

Hellenicism is alien to the Koran because freedom of thought is alien to the Muslims

[GreekIslandGirl]

Hellenism is a delusion of grandeur and there’s really nothing else to say about it…

The logic of this statement dictates that you, yourself, associate Hellenism with some form of grandeur.

That's fine, virtually all of its premises are considered grand by foremost authorities, not just you.

[Paphitis]

Hellenicism is alien to the Koran because freedom of thought is alien to the Muslims

Hellenism is also alien to the Bible!

Or should I say, Christianity is alien to Hellenism!

[GreekIslandGirl]

Too many aliens.

[Paphitis]

ET was a Greek God.