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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Maximus » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:21 am

bill cobbett wrote:A friend posts elsewhere of the casualties to date during the Turkish Troubles.

These are figures from the Turkish Doctors Association from 12 cities across the country ...

- 4355 people injured
- 2 people dead
- 47 people seriously injured
- 3 people in critical condition (1 from Eskişehir, 2 from Ankara)
- 18 people suffer from head traumas (serious / with fractures)
- 10 people blinded
- 1 person had his/her spleen removed

- additionally 1 person is brain dead
- 3 people are missing


- 1 dead police officer
- A weakening Lira
- The Istanbul 100 has shaved 15% of its value so far.
- Smashed up towns and city's
- 10,000 cheering supporters at Ataturk airport.

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Protestors' TV station

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:03 am

The protestors have set up their own Internet-based TV station called "Çapul TV", which is set to start broadcasting live from Gezi Park at 13:00 today, on the following URL:

http://www.capul.tv/
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:49 am

Şişli Municipality, with the aid of a businessman who did not wish for his name to be revealed, has provided toilets for the protesters in Taksim.

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http://www.radikal.com.tr/turkiye/gezi_ ... en-1136638
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:21 pm

From an article by columnist İhsan Dağı in the Zaman newspaper, affiliated to the Gülen sect and close to the Islamist regime in Turkey.

Doğrusu AK Parti kendi değiştirdiği Türkiye’yi anlamakta zorlanıyor. Toplumsal bir tepkiyi sadece örgütlere ve komplolara bağlayarak olayların kökenlerini anlamazlıktan geliyor. Buyurgan, halkına tepeden bakan, onu ideolojik bir kalıba sokmaya çalışan devlet anlayışına karşı sivilleşmeyi, demokratikleşmeyi, çoğulculuğu düne kadar AK Parti savunuyordu. AK Parti ‘devletleştikçe’ bu söylem ‘başkaları’na geçiyor. Paradoks tam da bu.

In truth, the AKP is having trouble understanding the Turkey that it has itself changed. By making connections between a social reaction and organisations and plots, it ignores the roots of the events. Up until yesterday, the AKP defended civilianisation, democratisation and pluralism in opposition to an approach to statehood which was authoritative, looked down on the people and attempted to cast them in an ideological mould. As the AKP has become embedded in the state, this discourse has passed to ‘others’. This is the crux of the paradox.
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senator McCain's view

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:41 pm

Republican senator McCain, speaking yesterday:

http://en.trend.az/regions/met/turkey/2158852.html

Speaking at Brookings Institute on Thursday, McCain, a staunch backer of a US intervention in the prolonged Syrian crisis, said there are more journalists jailed in Turkey than any other country in the world.
Speaking about a wide array of issues, especially about the current conflict in Syria, McCain said Erdogan is seen as a dictator in the eyes of many Turks.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby bill cobbett » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:12 pm

Protests continue throughout the country.

Very, very little in the way of thuggery by the "police".

Again, the last couple of hours in summary from independent media... unconfirmed...

22.01:
[Ankara] Thousands of people are walking from Kent Square to the subway station in Batıkent.
21.47:
[Ankara] Approximately 200 people in Seyranbağları are protesting in their neighborhood.
21.42:
[Ankara] People in Çukurambar, Yüzüncu Yıl, Birlik District and Ayrancı went out to street with pans and cookers in their hands.
21.41:
[Ankara] Approximately 200 people in Güvenpark are continuing to wait with slogans.
21.34:
[Ankara] Approximately 300 people started marching from Ahmed Arif Park
21.30:
[Ankara] 300 people who have gathered in front of the Mutlu Halkevi started marching towards the Tuzluçayır Square.
21.28:
[Ankara] People from Keçiöeren started walking to Yunus Emre Avenue from Danışment.
21.26:
[Ankara] In Sokullu Ahmed Arif Park, approximately 150 people started protesting with noises. And in İlker Mahsuni Şerif Park, almost 1000 people started marching towards Dikmen Avenue.
21.11:
[Ankara] Noise protests began at Toki Turkuaz Blocks. Convoys are set by cars and so many people also support protests by turning their lights on and off.
21.05:
[Antalya] Protests in Antalya does not seem to stop. Halkevleri built a podium at Cumhuriyet Square, where 500 doctors came by foot.
21.03:
[Ankara] People in KuğuluPark have built their tents again after being removed by police force earlier today. Number of people increase since 19.00 People from Tunalı Hilmi are also on their way to Kuğulu Park.
21.03:
[Niğde] Amount of protestors keeps rising day by day in Nigde. Protestors give away free food packets.
20.59:
[Samsun] There are more than 200 people in Atakum and its increasing. Police warned protestors to remove their tents and said :"There are instructions to remove all tents in whole Turkey." Locals insist on not removing their tents though.
20.59:
[Kocaeli] 2 thousand people came together at Cumhuriyet Square.
20.40:
[Izmir] Tents are built in Gündoğdu Square.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Demonax » Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:47 am

Gazi. Kurdish & Alevi Neighbourhood of Istanbul. 7th Jun 2013 {VIDEO}

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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:15 am

Demonax wrote:Gazi. Kurdish & Alevi Neighbourhood of Istanbul. 7th Jun 2013 {VIDEO}



Yesterday evening was apparently also eventful in the notorious Gazi Quarter of Sultangazi/Istanbul, a neighbourhood populated by Turkish, Zaza and Kurdish-speaking Alevis largely from the east of the country.

It seems that they set up barricades of tyres which were then set fire to and police vehicles were attacked with molotov cocktails.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/?hn=421482&kn=7&ka=4&kb=7

I personally think that this is a shame given that these demonstrations have for the most part and in most places been characterised by a spirit of non-violent, passive resistance.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby B25 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:48 am

The demonstrators have been pushed into this. They have been made to fight fire with fire.
These are early days yet, once the Erdo supporters take to the streets, that's when the real blood shed will have and it'll be the beginning of the end of Turkey.

I guess whoever controls the army will come out victorious. Time will tell. For us here in Cyprus, it maybe the change we have been waiting for!!!!
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Alleged behind-the-scene developments

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:25 pm

It is alleged that, since yesterday, government ministers at below deputy prime-minister level accompanied by Istanbul Metropolitan Mayor, Kadir Topbaş, who is from the ruling AK Party, have been conducting behind the scenes talks with various people representing the protestors with a view to laying the ground for a definitive resolution of the affair.

http://www.radikal.com.tr/politika/kadi ... or-1136784

It may be that Erdoğan’s public pronouncements since his return from Africa do not fully represent what is going on.
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