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by **Tim Drayton** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:23 pm

A number of youths who participated in the Gezi protests in the city of Antalya, Ali K, Leyla N, Anıl Bartu E, Murat S, Mustafa Cihan Y. and Ayşe Deniz K, were arrested on 2- 3 October. Among other charges, 20-year-old Ayşe Deniz K is accused of “wearing a red-coloured neckerchief which symbolises socialism” - apparently now a crime in Turkey!

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/?hn=446540&kn=7&ka=4&kb=7

by **stpier** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:54 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
stpier wrote:Thread is named I was there yesterday and some foreigner who has never been there is copying & pasting 76 pages of newspaper news in a Cyprus forum. Brilliant

Funny how you assume Turkey can get away with whatever it wants and not be "noticed" by the rest of the world.

Rest of the world is supposed to be South Cyprus? Who cares what you think?

by **Tim Drayton** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:26 pm

US citizen Sarah Elizabeth Perrich is among 16 people who are being prosecuted for breaching the Law on Meetings and Demonstrations and obstructing the police in the performance of their duties, offences that were allegedly committed on 12 September in Kadıköy, Istanbul in the course of protests against the death of Ahmet Atakan.

http://www.radikal.com.tr/turkiye/kadik ... mi-1155379

by **umit07** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:35 pm

stpier wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
stpier wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
stpier wrote:Thread is named I was there yesterday and some foreigner who has never been there is copying & pasting 76 pages of newspaper news in a Cyprus forum. Brilliant

Sayın stpier,

Ben uzun yıllar Türkiye'de yaşadım. Dikkatinizden kaçmış olabilir, ama bu gazete haberleri hep Türkçe olarak yazılmış ben onları özet olarak İngilizce'ye çevirdim. Türkiye'ye güya hiç gitmemişim eğer nasıl bu kadar Türkçe öğrenebildim acaba?

Have you worked in Turkey as a spy? You should have been kicked out of the country to join the tiny enemy forces. By the way google translate is a miracle. You can speak Chinese in seconds!

Sen de Erdoğanın götünün kılı mısın?

Sen adi serefsiz katil Rumlarin orospusu olmussun coktan.

Adam simdi nerden katil olmuş anlamış değilim, birde üstüne "orospuluk" eklemişin afferin sana manyak herif.

by **stpier** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:58 pm

umit07 wrote:
Adam simdi nerden katil olmuş anlamış değilim, birde üstüne "orospuluk" eklemişin afferin sana manyak herif.

Senin Türkçende nasıl bir sorun var, Rumların arasında mı öğrendin? Adama değil Rum'a katil dedim bir, aferin böyle yazılır iki, üçüncüsü bana göt kılı diyen birine orospu demem seni neden ilgilendiriyor? Haddini bil önce Rum yalakası.

by **Tim Drayton** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:47 pm

In Istanbul this evening, police intervened using water cannon against about 50-60 people who were protesting against the cancellation of a concert to have been given tonight by the anti-regime group, Grup Yorum.

http://www.cumhuriyet.com.tr/?hn=446808&kn=7&ka=4&kb=7

by **Tim Drayton** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:53 pm

stpier wrote:
umit07 wrote:
Adam simdi nerden katil olmuş anlamış değilim, birde üstüne "orospuluk" eklemişin afferin sana manyak herif.

Senin Türkçende nasıl bir sorun var, Rumların arasında mı öğrendin? Adama değil Rum'a katil dedim bir, aferin böyle yazılır iki, üçüncüsü bana göt kılı diyen birine orospu demem seni neden ilgilendiriyor? Haddini bil önce Rum yalakası.

Size acaba göt kılı mısınız diye sordum cevap size açık bıraktım. Hayır değilim gayet rahat diyebilirdiniz. Anladığım kadarıyla Erdoğanı destekleyenlerden bazıları övünerek bu herifin götünün kılıyım diyorlar böylece sizin için övgü mü hakaret mi sayılmalı kestiremiyorum.

by **stpier** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:08 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
stpier wrote:
umit07 wrote:
Adam simdi nerden katil olmuş anlamış değilim, birde üstüne "orospuluk" eklemişin afferin sana manyak herif.

Senin Türkçende nasıl bir sorun var, Rumların arasında mı öğrendin? Adama değil Rum'a katil dedim bir, aferin böyle yazılır iki, üçüncüsü bana göt kılı diyen birine orospu demem seni neden ilgilendiriyor? Haddini bil önce Rum yalakası.

Size acaba göt kılı mısınız diye sordum cevap size açık bıraktım. Hayır değilim gayet rahat diyebilirdim. Anladığım kadarıyla Erdoğanı destekleyenlerden bazıları övünerek bu herifin götünün kılıyım diyorlar böylece sizin için övgü mü hakaret mi sayılmalı mı kestiremiyorum.

Erdoğan'ı desteklediğim nerden çıktı??? Erdoğan'ı öven bir yazı yazdığımı hatırlamıyorum. Sizin bu yazıları tercüme edip yayınlamanız Erdoğan karşıtlığından değil Türkiye düşmanlığından. Madem cevabı bana bırakan bir soru sordunuz ben de soruyla cevap veriyim: Rum destekçisi orospu musunuz bayım? Terbiyesizleşirsen aynı şekilde cevabını alırsın. So next time stop swearing at people if you don't want to be treated the same way.

by **Tim Drayton** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:19 am

You misunderstand my motives for posting this material here.

As must be obvious, I support the Gezi Park protests, and the wider protest movement that they have engendered. I believe that their goal is todefend the values of the secular republic, which I also support, and move Turkey forward in the direction of pluralism and true democracy. I am not an enemy of Turkey or the Turkish people at all.

I noticed that this thread has very high rankings on Google and is receiving a lot of views; far more than the number of regular participants on this forum. This means that, in a small way, I am helping to get news about what is happening to the wider world. When you consider that Fethullah can employ a whole team of translators to get his main daily newspaper (appearing as 'Today's Zaman' in English), I am happy if I can make a small contribution by getting a tiny amount of material to the wider public that presents an alternative view. Yes, it is easy for me sitting here in a democratic country where there are no restrictions on freedom of speech to support this movement when brave people in Turkey, in support of the right to demonstrate peacefully and of the values of the secular republic, are facing tear gas and water cannons and run the risk of being arrested and tortured in police stations, sent before Fetthullah's courts on trumped up charges which will simply be rubber stamped by the brainwashed judges there, or even of being blinded or killed. I see the hypocrisy, but, on the other hand, for me to sit back and do nothing when it is within my power to make this small contribution would be even worse. I am sorry that you choose to interpret this as enmity towards Turkey, but it isn't. In fact, I have received a number of messages of support for what I am doing here and on other sites from some surprising people in Turkey, who do not view my efforts the way you do.

I also feel that this news is relevant on a forum devoted to Cyprus, because Turkey continues to occupy about one-third of the territory of this island, and as long as it does so, developments in Turkey will be relevant for Cyprus.

I couldn't care less whether you swear at me or not - you are only demonstrating your own ignorance. It was actually a Turkish Cypriot participant on this forum who took exception to this.

As to your question - well 'oropsou' means 'whore', and the Turkish Language Institute Dictionary confirms to me in its definitions that an 'orospu' must be a woman, and you also address me as 'bayım' meaning 'gentleman', so you have answered your own question there.

I consider the Republic of Cyprus to be the home of Greek Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots and the other smaller minority groups that live here, and look forward to the day when Cyprus becomes reunited. I do not support any one community here; I support all people who wish for peace and reconciliation and oppose the nationalist fanatics of both the main communities.

by **stpier** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:51 am

Did you also look at the meaning of göt kılı? A humanbeing cannot be göt kılı so your question of whether I was a göt kılı or not was totally for provocation purposes. Don't play the innocent here. Calling someone orospu is ignorance but göt kılı is not?
I believe GeziParkı protests do not need the support of some foreigner who is writing from an enemy country and whose posts are supported by the enemies. Just look at who backs you in this thread: kurupetos, b25, greekwoman.... I don't think there is any Turk in this world who would appreciate this ignominy.
Finally it is so funny that the claim Turkey occupying "Cyprus" comes from a British. Why exactly is your country having 2 giant bases in a small island thousands of kilometers from your homeland? Is it because of the same reason you are occupying Argentinian and Spanish lands in Falklands and Gibraltar? If you want to make a contribution to something, mind your own business and stand against your country's shameful occupations.