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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:49 pm

[My translation of an article in today’s Radikal newspaper.]

Radikal has accessed the statement of Ebubekir Harlar, the last person to be remanded in the investigation into the beating to death of university student Ali İsmail Korkmaz in Eskişehir. Harlar, the fourth civilian to be remanded in the investigation, said that, with the remanded suspect policeman Mevlüt Saldoğan having shouted ‘Catch him,’ they tripped Korkmaz up, the three bakery people kicked him and then finally the policeman came and kicked the kid in the head. Harlar, like the three other detainees, has made the defence that, ‘We wanted to help the state police.’

Harlar, who was interrogated on 15 August at Eskişehir Penal Court of the Peace Number 6, explained that he worked as a stoker at a pitta bread bakery and that on the night of the event he went to the Harman Ekmek Bakery in Sanayi Street. Harlar, saying that the police entered and left the bakery that night, said, with reference to the club wielders in the footage, ‘As far as I know, they were plain clothes police officers.’ Harlar, explaining that normally the bakery would not be open so late, said: ‘They were waiting so that the Gezi Park protestors would not damage the bakery or commit looting. The police were there so as to catch the protestors.’ Harlar, stating that at 23.57 a youth ascertained to have been Ali İsmail Korkmaz ran into the street, continued as follows:

I tripped him up

‘A policeman shouted ‘Catch whoever comes.’ People, one of whom I thought to be the bakery’s owner and the other two whom I saw in the bakery, made a move towards the individual. I tripped the individual up with my foot but did not hit him. I acted in a spirit of helping the state’s police. The three bakery people hit him with their hands and feet. After this, the male individual lay on the ground for a while. The person who walked up quickly to the individual lying on the ground and gave the individual three or four kicks in the head was the plain clothes policeman who had shouted, “Catch him.” As the policeman was kicking him, he was shouting, "Who is a son of a bitch, tell me now." After the policeman had delivered the lethal natured kicks, the individual lying on the ground got up and ran away.’

Meanwhile, Muhammet Vatansever, one of the three civilians in the bakery who was remanded on 5 August also explained when questioned that they tripped up Korkmaz so as to help the police, that he gave one kick and then the police officer Mevlüt Saldoğan came and hit him.

The police were wielding clubs

Vatansever said, ‘The person whom I believed to be a policeman was wielding a 40-50 centimetre long object. I do not remember if he used this object. I remember that he delivered kicks.’

Baker İsmail Koyuncu and his private security guard Ramazan Koyuncu also offered the defence that they acted with the intention of helping the police. The second policeman whose statement was taken as a suspect in the investigation was Y.A., who serves with the Anti-Terror Unit. Y.A., in his statement, alleging that Ali İsmail Korkmaz threw stones at him, maintained that he knew Serkan Kavak, who was seen in the vicinity of the police with a piece of oak and was released after having been detained. Y.A., recounting how the four civilians intervened against the demonstrators, said, ‘I gave no order or instruction of any kind to any officials or civilians to beat up or catch the protestors. They just appeared in front of me as I was chasing a group of protestors. I saw that was how the civilians caught them and chased them off. I do not know if they beat them up.’


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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:50 pm

Protestors attempted to stage a march in Eskişehir today while Minister of Youth and Sport, Suat Kılıç, was in the city to attend a foundation laying ceremony at a planned new stadium.

The protestors carried a banner reading: “We appeal to Suat Kılıç who has come to Eskişehir. Stop threatening the resistors. Find Ali’s murderers. Eskişehir Resistance Forums.”

Finding their path blocked by riot police, they said that they wished to march to the Provincial Governor’s office, read a statement and disperse. They were denied permission to do so.

Police made 12 arrests after some of the protestors attempted to storm the police barricade.

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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:12 pm

The evidence is stacking up against the detained suspects in the investigation into the killing of student Ali İsmail Korkmaz during the Gezi Park protests. Despite their statements denying that the civilians involved were acting in a coordinated manner with the police, and their claims that the civilians simply stepped in on being asked to catch the fleeing Korkmaz and simply acted out of a desire to help the police, the following footage shows two of the suspects, the plain-clothes policeman, Mevlüt Saldoğan, and one of the civilians, Serkan Kavak, acting in a coordinated manner to dish out a beating to another fleeing protestor just 10 minutes before Korkmaz received the beating that lead to his death, and at the same spot.

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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:11 am

Another Gezi Park protestor in Eskişehir has filed a complaint with the public prosecutor, alleging that he was severely beaten by the police while on a demonstration.

First-year university student Tevfik Caner Ertay alleges that on the evening of 2 June he was part of a group marching towards the AKP party building in the city and, after the police intervened, he ran into a car park to escape the tear gas. The 20-30 policemen who chased him kicked and punched him and beat him with truncheons. He fainted and when he came to the police had gone, so he went to the top floor of the car park.

In his statement, he continues: “About one hour passed. Five plain-clothes policemen whom I knew to work in the Eskişehir Anti-Terror Unit came to where I was. They beat me and took my ID. They dragged me down the stairs. There were 15 more policemen downstairs. They attacked me with the metal and wooden sticks they were holding. While I was lying on the ground, the police squirted tear gas into my face. They dragged me towards the park, forced me into the boot of a car and shut the door. They intimidated me by saying to one another ‘Let’s do away with him.’ They took me to a street which I did not know. When they opened the boot, there were about ten policemen along with the individual known as ‘Ayhan’, who was the police commander. Ayhan said, ‘Nice work, now take him away.’ They tried to get me out of the boot. When I resisted, they beat me and shut the door again.”

Ertay says that he was later taken to two hospitals, where pressure was put on the doctors writing the reports, was prevented from contacting his lawyers and was finally detained at police headquarters. In an examination at the Directorate of Forensic Medicine, he was found to have a broken nose and bone in his hand, widespread swelling on his face, a 10x5 centimetre bruise below his right eye and redness of 10x7 centimetres on the right of his back, 20x10 centimetres on the back of his neck, 10x7 centimetres on the right side of his abdomen and 30x10 centimetres on his left thigh.

Ertay’s lawyer Pınar Çelik Arpacı claims that the police hid her client from her that night, saying, “We went to Eskişehir State Hospital along with some lawyer colleagues to find Ertay. On learning that he had been treated and taken away, we approached the police directorate, to be told: ‘He’s not here.’ We went to the Security Branch Directorate and then to the town centre police station. We finally learnt that Ertay had been in hospital for three hours. With the police not granting us access, we went to the Odunpazarı police station. We managed to conduct an interview here.”

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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:55 pm

With four civilians and one police officer already having been detained in the investigation into Ali İsmail Korkmaz’s death, fresh CCTV footage has identified a further police officer, Hüseyin Engin, whose name was previously mentioned in the investigation, as being among the assailants.

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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby DrCyprus » Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:32 pm

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkis ... sCatID=338

A Turkish minister says use of tear gas modern.

Interior Minister Muammer Güler has said the Turkish police’s recent use of tear gas was “modern” and the police interventions during protests were “proportional,” in response to a parliamentary question from main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) deputy Sezgin Tanrıkulu.

“Tear gas weaponry and equipment are used by trained personnel under supervision of the related authority, just as is done in every other security structure of all modern countries,” Güler said.

He also said the pressurized water used by police during protests was the same as that used by firefighters, refuting claims that water was mixed with tear gas.

“Police use the same water as firefighters. In cases where it is needed, the water is mixed with food coloring and OC gas solution,” Güler said, adding that the “proportional” use of force comes only as a last resort.

Gezi medicine on display

Meanwhile, the Istanbul provincial Health Directorate put on display medicine confiscated from infirmaries that served the wounded during the Gezi Park protests.

The counting and recording of the medicine finished in late July, according to an official statement released by the directorate.

The statement said over 500 boxes of medicine belonged to various hospitals and carried stamps that prevented any sale profits from being made.

The boxes have been moved to a medical storage facility in Bakırköy, the directorate added.
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:03 pm

DrCyprus wrote:http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-minister-says-use-of-tear-gas-was-modern.aspx?pageID=238&nID=53407&NewsCatID=338

A Turkish minister says use of tear gas modern.

Interior Minister Muammer Güler has said the Turkish police’s recent use of tear gas was “modern” and the police interventions during protests were “proportional,” in response to a parliamentary question from main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP) deputy Sezgin Tanrıkulu.

“Tear gas weaponry and equipment are used by trained personnel under supervision of the related authority, just as is done in every other security structure of all modern countries,” Güler said.

He also said the pressurized water used by police during protests was the same as that used by firefighters, refuting claims that water was mixed with tear gas.

“Police use the same water as firefighters. In cases where it is needed, the water is mixed with food coloring and OC gas solution,” Güler said, adding that the “proportional” use of force comes only as a last resort.

Gezi medicine on display

Meanwhile, the Istanbul provincial Health Directorate put on display medicine confiscated from infirmaries that served the wounded during the Gezi Park protests.

The counting and recording of the medicine finished in late July, according to an official statement released by the directorate.

The statement said over 500 boxes of medicine belonged to various hospitals and carried stamps that prevented any sale profits from being made.

The boxes have been moved to a medical storage facility in Bakırköy, the directorate added.


Thank you, this fulfills your present agenda of promoting how "good" the Turkish government are. Have they answered your job applications yet?
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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby DrCyprus » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:03 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote: Have they answered your job applications yet?


I didn't actually send anything. I just posted my CV on a reputable website that deals with my line of business and got an email of interest from an Istanbul based company. I also received various offers from Russia, Poland and Spain (including the Canary islands).

Having said all this, I'd have no personal problem working inTurkey or any bias towards common Turkish people trying to look after their own lives and families unlike a few racists around here.

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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:19 am

Ayşegül Kumaş, the lawyer acting on behalf of the family of the 19-year-old student Ali İsmail Korkamz, who died after being beaten up during the Gezi Park protests in Eskişehir, has said that study of the CCTV footage reveals that Ali was beaten up once before and once after the beating that took place in front of the Harman Bakery, for which four suspects have already been remanded in custody. She has called for four more policeman to be arrested: the policeman Hüseyin E. who was the first to beat him, and the three policemen shown in other footage beating him in front of the Beşik Hotel.

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Re: I was There yesterday! (events in Istanbul)

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:10 am

DrCyprus wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote: Have they answered your job applications yet?


I didn't actually send anything. I just posted my CV on a reputable website that deals with my line of business and got an email of interest from an Istanbul based company. I also received various offers from Russia, Poland and Spain (including the Canary islands).

Having said all this, I'd have no personal problem working inTurkey or any bias towards common Turkish people trying to look after their own lives and families unlike a few racists around here.

cheers


Sorry, I'm not in the line of helping/working for the enemy that occupies my country no matter how much I consider Turkish individuals to have equal rights as humans.

(Just as I wouldn't have worked for the Germans during WW II no matter that there existed a few nice German peasants at the time. )
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