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[tsukoui]

Pathitis, you are just supporting my argument. If you think capitalism is the way forward and you don't have a problem with immigration then fine. But look how all these proponents of the free market balk at the prospect of an international free market for labour. They claim to be against government intervention then want the government to intervene to protect nationalities. It is the height of hypocrisy.

You are talking about totalitarian regimes I think.

Where do you think it is better to live, in the US or North Korea?

I am not sure I get what your saying, but a free labour market in the EU, or US or Australia will destroy everything. You won't be able to survive on $2 per day!

The U.S. of course

But I have a Greek friend who grew up in East Germany and he says he preferred it to London.

These "racial" issues that you say are the problem are a direct result of the "White" capitalist development model which stripped the former colonies of their self sufficiency.

Greece did not have a "racial" problem until it got caught up in this mode of development, as the report says, the Greek people got on well with people from elsewhere.

As to alternatives, this is what we should really be talking about.

[Paphitis]

Pathitis, you are just supporting my argument. If you think capitalism is the way forward and you don't have a problem with immigration then fine. But look how all these proponents of the free market balk at the prospect of an international free market for labour. They claim to be against government intervention then want the government to intervene to protect nationalities. It is the height of hypocrisy.

You are talking about totalitarian regimes I think.

Where do you think it is better to live, in the US or North Korea?

I am not sure I get what your saying, but a free labour market in the EU, or US or Australia will destroy everything. You won't be able to survive on $2 per day!

The U.S. of course

But I have a Greek friend who grew up in East Germany and he says he preferred it to London.

These "racial" issues that you say are the problem are a direct result of the "White" capitalist development model which stripped the former colonies of their self sufficiency.

Greece did not have a "racial" problem until it got caught up in this mode of development, as the report says, the Greek people got on well with people from elsewhere.

As to alternatives, this is what we should really be talking about.

Yes ok tsukoui. They would say the same about the former Soviet Union and Moscow and Prague is unbelievably beautiful and better than London in my opinion.

But even so, those Communist Regimes were amongst the most corrupt in the world. I am still trying to figure out how there are so many Russian Billionaires today when back in 1989, not one of those self made Billionaires had 2 bob to rub together. A good Russian friend of mine told me that the States assets were funneled away to private established Communist Party families and of course there is the famed Russian Mafia.

What you want tsukoui, is a regulated form of Capitalism, free enterprise, democracy, and a good socialist network of welfare to protect the vulnerable. You don't want Communism or Totalitarianism believe me.

A capitalist country can be a socialist country too.

[kurupetos]

Pathitis, you are just supporting my argument. If you think capitalism is the way forward and you don't have a problem with immigration then fine. But look how all these proponents of the free market balk at the prospect of an international free market for labour. They claim to be against government intervention then want the government to intervene to protect nationalities. It is the height of hypocrisy.

You're British. End of discussion.

[tsukoui]

Pathitis, you are just supporting my argument. If you think capitalism is the way forward and you don't have a problem with immigration then fine. But look how all these proponents of the free market balk at the prospect of an international free market for labour. They claim to be against government intervention then want the government to intervene to protect nationalities. It is the height of hypocrisy.

You're British. End of discussion.

Because I can't tell the difference between a phi and a theta? Actually I can't pronounce "th" the British way, must have been all that Greek school I went to

[Cap]

Pathitis from Pathos.

[Oceanside50]

Real modern day racism stems from illegal immigrants constructing extremist groups to subvert the voice of the democratic people.

Meanwhile, the UK is facing European Courts for failing to treat EU nationals equally - this is another wrong on the other extreme.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22712569

- Golden Dawn are looking more mainstream under these two extremes, subversive illegal migrants and subversive UK policy against EU nationals.

The illegals/legal migrants are forming gangs to protect themselves, it's only natural..it's all growing pains leading up to a United States of Europe...

The Greeks, and the Europeans, have the right to protect themselves, though. What do you think?

If governments protected them like they should regardless of who they are then there wouldn't be a problem

[kurupetos]

Real modern day racism stems from illegal immigrants constructing extremist groups to subvert the voice of the democratic people.

Meanwhile, the UK is facing European Courts for failing to treat EU nationals equally - this is another wrong on the other extreme.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22712569

- Golden Dawn are looking more mainstream under these two extremes, subversive illegal migrants and subversive UK policy against EU nationals.

The illegals/legal migrants are forming gangs to protect themselves, it's only natural..it's all growing pains leading up to a United States of Europe...

The Greeks, and the Europeans, have the right to protect themselves, though. What do you think?

If governments protected them like they should regardless of who they are then there wouldn't be a problem

Soon they will, doc.

[Oceanside50]

:lol:

Pathitis from Pathos.

Cypriots say:...gamithou

Greeks say: gamisou

Some Greeks i hang out with used to think i had a lisp....

[GreekIslandGirl]

:lol:

Pathitis from Pathos.

Cypriots say:...gamithou

Greeks say: gamisou

Some Greeks i hang out with used to think i had a lisp....

That's probably from the many ways that Cypriot still resembles Ancient Greek - like, θάλασσα which is the Ionic/Doric/Koine/Byzantine/Modern Greek form for the "Sea". And Θάλαττα, the Attic Greek form.

[supporttheunderdog]

I do not support the fascists, and the immigrants have a right to defend themselves. The Greeks have brought this on themselves by allying themselves with the "Whites" and capitalist imperialism.

What is interesting is how many of the Africans in this report say that Greece and the Greek people used to be lovely.

Greeks had good relations with the people of Africa and elsewhere.

But they chose a path of collaboration with "White" capitalism and imperialism.

One cannot have it both ways.

Why are so many people migrating from Africa?

The simple reason is because of the great underdevelopment caused by the "Whites".

One cannot say that Africa was backward. It was self sufficient and there was no need for its development to follow the capitalist route.

The Soviet Union never had a problem with immigration. It had relations with Africa based on solidarity. Students from all over Africa came to the Soviet Union to study on condition they went back and helped develop their own country. In other words, the Soviets helped Africans to develop their own countries rather than have to flee in desperation.

There was migration in both directions, but it was slower, more natural and allowed both countries to get used to each others differences.

The Soviet path is the harder path, but it is the only way to avoid these problems.

If we pursue the "White" model of developing at the expense of others, e.g. Africans, of course they will seek to come to where the capital is being stored.

We have to be clear. The "Whites" caused this mess. The only way to avoid it is to separate completely from their system.

Cyprus should take heed.

the soviet path as practised in the Soviet Union was not a good path as it killed millions of its own and made slaves of the rest.