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Re: Pithkia

Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue May 28, 2013 5:59 am

bill cobbett wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:Cheese making was probably several thousand years old by the time The Odyssey was written, possibly being known in what is now Poland as much as 7500 years ago.


Poland...???

Surely the making of cheese must be very nearly as old as agriculture and the domestication of sheep and goats which would put it at least 10,000 years ago and with a western origin somewhere in the Fertile Crescent...???

Quite probably. Poland is apparently where the earliest secure evidence was found.
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Re: Pithkia

Postby RichardB » Wed May 29, 2013 12:02 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:I posted the other day (then self-deleted) that my mum used to use lemon juice. I've just double-checked to see how wide-spread this practice is and apparently lemon juice is commonly used for cheese-making instead of rennet. :)

The Greeks adored cheese. In the eighth century B.C.E., Homer mentions cheese in his epic poem, “The Odyssey.” Olympic athletes grew fleet and brawny on a mostly-cheese diet.hobbyfarms.com


Hi Miss Asian cheeses are ofter made ucing lemon juice (citric acid)
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Re: Pithkia

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed May 29, 2013 12:58 pm

RichardB wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:I posted the other day (then self-deleted) that my mum used to use lemon juice. I've just double-checked to see how wide-spread this practice is and apparently lemon juice is commonly used for cheese-making instead of rennet. :)

The Greeks adored cheese. In the eighth century B.C.E., Homer mentions cheese in his epic poem, “The Odyssey.” Olympic athletes grew fleet and brawny on a mostly-cheese diet.hobbyfarms.com


Hi Miss Asian cheeses are ofter made ucing lemon juice (citric acid)


Aahh, that would be my great, great, great etc grandfather, Alexander the Great, who taught them that! :D
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Re: Pithkia

Postby kurupetos » Wed May 29, 2013 2:22 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
RichardB wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:I posted the other day (then self-deleted) that my mum used to use lemon juice. I've just double-checked to see how wide-spread this practice is and apparently lemon juice is commonly used for cheese-making instead of rennet. :)

The Greeks adored cheese. In the eighth century B.C.E., Homer mentions cheese in his epic poem, “The Odyssey.” Olympic athletes grew fleet and brawny on a mostly-cheese diet.hobbyfarms.com


Hi Miss Asian cheeses are ofter made ucing lemon juice (citric acid)


Aahh, that would be my great, great, great etc grandfather, Alexander the Great, who taught them that! :D

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Re: Pithkia

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed May 29, 2013 2:58 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
RichardB wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:I posted the other day (then self-deleted) that my mum used to use lemon juice. I've just double-checked to see how wide-spread this practice is and apparently lemon juice is commonly used for cheese-making instead of rennet. :)

The Greeks adored cheese. In the eighth century B.C.E., Homer mentions cheese in his epic poem, “The Odyssey.” Olympic athletes grew fleet and brawny on a mostly-cheese diet.hobbyfarms.com


Hi Miss Asian cheeses are ofter made ucing lemon juice (citric acid)


Aahh, that would be my great, great, great etc grandfather, Alexander the Great, who taught them that! :D


Yes but who taught him to make Cheese? Don't let your pro-Hellenic fantasies get the better of you. Cheese making was not after all a Greek invention. The fact is that Cheese making was known to have occurred in many places outside of what is now Greece and in particular in the area invaded and conquered by that imperialist Alexander, e.g in Sumer and Akkad, long before even Homer: a Sumerian/Akkadian bilingual lexicon of about 1900 BC lists twenty kinds of cheese. It is surmised some ancient Cheeses which long predate anything Greek are like modern Fetta.

Indeed I would go so far as to suggest that it was possibly only after the time of Alexander that the Greeks acquired the technique of using Citric acid from Greeks returning from the area of Persia as at the time Alexander went through the Citron was known in Persia but possibly not in Greece: this is at least implied by the works of Theoprastus, a contemporary of Alexander, who remarked it grew in Media and Persia, but no mention of it in Greece. The lemon only appears to have entered the Mediterranean area from its Asian origins a couple of hundred years after Alexander.


Interesting that it mentions a bilingual lexicon.....
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Re: Pithkia

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed May 29, 2013 3:52 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:Yes but who taught him to make Cheese?


You did, you dairy queen. :D
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Re: Pithkia

Postby Mik » Wed May 29, 2013 6:22 pm

Who cares its CHEESE and should be eaten. Best 'mistake' ever!
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Re: Pithkia

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed May 29, 2013 8:48 pm

Yes, the milk probably curdled the instant it was looked at, by some here. :D

(Nothing to beat the taste of freshly made anari with a sprinkling of sugar. Nom. )
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Re: Pithkia

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu May 30, 2013 11:20 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Aahh, that would be my great, great, great etc grandfather, Alexander the Great, who taught them that! :D



oh and by the way you (or for that matter any other person) are likely to be descended from Alexander the great as you are descended from the dinosaurs.....(related to but not descended from)

Alexander the Great had two Children, but both died in Childhood, and Alex had no Grand-Children.

(Herakles was most certainly an imposter)
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