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[Oceanside50]

Due to its superior training and equipment the Hellenic AirForce would have the Turk war machine on its knees in 48 hrs...this from an Israeli commander...read on

http://elnewsgr.blogspot.com/2011/09/bl ... 6.html?m=1

I think the argument is over...no Turk airforce equals no Turk army/navy...again the USA is protecting the Turks from the Greeks, forget all arguments,such as,who has the best missiles tanks and ships and the endless posts...


Administrator could you please close this thread the debate is over..thanks

[repulsewarrior]

...i must say, it is worrisome reading on commercial pilot forums their opinions of Turkish Pilots, mostly due to lax training and inspection standards.

it is said that they do not do a visual inspection of their crafts before they fly them because they depend on others to have done it. in terms of discipline and integrity of their fighting forces, i remember Solomou. in that melee, women, children, and a UN Observer, were injured from the shots, nothing was done, nor was it considered to be important, to correct the chain of command which brought them such disgrace.

...Greece surely has a better Navy when it comes to their crews, it was only in 1974 that Turkey gained any attention in that regard. even with the hardship that Greece has faced, it holds a supremacy in Maritme Affairs which is recognised the world over. but, neither can defend themselves without a consensus among all the interlocutors which in this case are plenty. Isreal is the key, as it is the US's stongest ally in the region. The EU also has an influence although (perhaps) not militaraly, NATO plays its role, so too the Russians, to name a few; not easy to be Cypriot, stuck in the middle of it.

[Get Real!]

I can look at our history in 1963 and 1967 when you were beaten to a pulp and needed mommy to come and save you!

Mommy, mommy… help me mommy!

What load of bull-shite you go on about you comical blabbering idiot!
In 1963-67 the only people you managed to kill were few hundred defenseless villagers in remote areas, burying women, and children in mass graves WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO PRESENT YOU WITH A CHRONOLOGY? - you really are a fearsome hero aren't you (you plastic soldier!)

You could not even get near us in big towns where there were major Turkish enclaves (Paphos, Famagusta, Nicosia, Lefke even the St Hilarion Caste watcing over you in Kyrenia! TCs fought you with shot guns and air rifles against fully armed NG and EOKA men! But as someone else said, you never had or will have the balls to fight the Turks - THANK GOD OUR ENEMY IN CYPRUS WERE THE SPINELESS GREEK FORCES, or else the island would definitely have been cleared of all TCs long time ago

As for the way you perceive Turks in the north - someone better explain you the dangers of day dreaming, when you look at a lion and think it is a pussy cat! You try to play with it but end up getting eaten alive!

If the TAF hadn’t come to bomb GC positions at Kokkina in the nick of time, the cornered TCs would’ve been history.

In fact Turkey propping you up from the dead pretty much covers your history on Cyprus in the last 100 odd years!

Not even Lazarous has been so lucky…

[Get Real!]

Due to its superior training and equipment the Hellenic AirForce would have the Turk war machine on its knees in 48 hrs...this from an Israeli commander...read on

http://elnewsgr.blogspot.com/2011/09/bl ... 6.html?m=1

I think the argument is over...no Turk airforce equals no Turk army/navy...again the USA is protecting the Turks from the Greeks, forget all arguments,such as,who has the best missiles tanks and ships and the endless posts...

We don't give a shit about your hellenic crap! It's got nothing to do with us.

This is a CNG thread so you'd better respect it...

You can talk about the CNG or its arch enemy Turkey… but any other country's military is irrelevant here.

[Get Real!]

Anyway, those who have any doubt about our military inventory can always come to watch the annual military parade where a lot of gear is paraded.

I posted a picture here before where as a young infantry corporal I proudly marched through Makarios Avenue at the annual military parade, I think circa 1984/85.

The CNG of course has come a long way since and I can honestly say that on a pound-for-pound scale you won’t find a more badass military force in the world.

[bigOz]

...i must say, it is worrisome reading on commercial pilot forums their opinions of Turkish Pilots, mostly due to lax training and inspection standards.

it is said that they do not do a visual inspection of their crafts before they fly them because they depend on others to have done it. in terms of discipline and integrity of their fighting forces, i remember Solomou. in that melee, women, children, and a UN Observer, were injured from the shots, nothing was done, nor was it considered to be important, to correct the chain of command which brought them such disgrace.

...Greece surely has a better Navy when it comes to their crews, it was only in 1974 that Turkey gained any attention in that regard. even with the hardship that Greece has faced, it holds a supremacy in Maritme Affairs which is recognised the world over. but, neither can defend themselves without a consensus among all the interlocutors which in this case are plenty. Isreal is the key, as it is the US's stongest ally in the region. The EU also has an influence although (perhaps) not militaraly, NATO plays its role, so too the Russians, to name a few; not easy to be Cypriot, stuck in the middle of it.

RP: I totally disagree (and the whole of Europe would) with your comments about Turkish Commercial pilots. Turkish Airlines are the voted "best airline" in Europe for travel to anywhere! Their pilots are 99% Turkish - and if you ever travel with THY you would understand why. Over the past 2 years Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United and only few days ago Bayern Munich have chosen THY to fly to their important European games. They have the youngest fleet of Airbuses and Boeings, increasing their fleet by a dozen planes or so every year. There is a plan to increase their fleet by another 60 aircraft within the next 2-3 years. They are one of the top profit making airlines, while Cyprus Airways and some other European Airways are struggling to survive. So I am afraid your argument fails completely

Pilots no longer inspect their planes manually - electronic sensors for doors and any other external parts such as tires etc has replaced the need. Furthermore, ground engineers provide the inspection before an aircraft takes off and are used by most airline companies.

Turkish fighter pilots have won many medals coming first in joint Nato air exercises in Europe and Turkey, there is a Turkish fighter instructor in Top Gun USA. Solo Turk (F16) and the Turkish Stars have been the centre of attraction winning top awards over the past few years in many international airshows. They are invited and carried out great shows not only in Europe but all across the Turkic regions such as Khazakistan, Azerbeijan, Turkmanistan, and the rest. How the Greek air-force compares I have no idea... I am not saying they do not win awards in exercises or have a show team - they may have, but as a pilot I never heard of them. The last time I heard of a "superior Greek fighter" was not so long ago, when trying to escape the radar lock of a Turkish F16, he plunged into the Aegean! I am not gloating or very happy about what happened, but because I respect all pilots and any unnecessary loss of life due to an air-crash as such would always upset me very much.

Here is an example of just how good they are:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... n-sea.html

The Mirage 2000 fighter bomber of the Greek Hellenic airforce was rescued from a watery grave after it crashed into the Aegean sea.
The two-seater aircraft went down on June 9 this year after running into trouble while on an exercise with two other jets near the island of Samos. Both pilot and co-pilot were able to eject safely and were rescued before being taken to Athens Military hospital.

Embarrassingly for the Greeks the accident happened just a day after one of their F-16 fighters caught fire while taking off from Souda air base on the island of Crete.

This is a video of a Greek mirage crashing into the Aegean after a dogfight with a Turkish fighter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYRl5DtpX5s

Another recent one before things cooled down in the Aegean, showing the Geek Mirage jet desperately trying to escape but getting "locked" on many occasions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC-LNrqF5Zo

Of course Turkish Jets also plunged into the Aegean, the most famous one was the shooting down of a Turkish Fighter back in 1996 - but that was totally out of order because the fighters over the Aegean are not supposed to be "armed"! Also Turkish Airforce has gained superiority over the past 4-5 years after increasing their inventory of superior electronically equipped F16s...

As for discipline of fighting forces - I think Greek soldiers had always left the Turkish ones in the shade...

[bigOz]

Still never trust a person who describes himself as a Professional anything, but can't spell the word correctly.

I have no idea to whom and what you are referring to but there is such a thing as "typo error" that would happen to the best of us. Even some of the peasants frequenting this forum are aware of the "spell check" one can click on and recover all the mistakes - that is if you have loads of time to waste and nothing better to do.

You seem to have a lot of free time, since you keep shitting in CF. Is it because of the sewage problem in the 'trnc'?

Once every 4-5 months I get the urge and tale pleasure in fighting a bunch of idiots, racist-nationalist pigs, ignorant peasants and mythological figures who live in a dream world! Shame I missed you this time but maybe we can talk again in another few months - byeeee
As a final comment - THIS IS A GREEK MIRAGE IN THE AEGEAN - WHERE IT BELONGS!
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/ ... 34x452.jpg

Shame I missed you this time but maybe we can talk again in another few months - byeeee

[Jerry]

Still never trust a person who describes himself as a Professional anything, but can't spell the word correctly.

I have no idea to whom and what you are referring to but there is such a thing as "typo error" that would happen to the best of us. Even some of the peasants frequenting this forum are aware of the "spell check" one can click on and recover all the mistakes - that is if you have loads of time to waste and nothing better to do.

You seem to have a lot of free time, since you keep shitting in CF. Is it because of the sewage problem in the 'trnc'?

Once every 4-5 months I get the urge and tale pleasure in fighting a bunch of idiots, racist-nationalist pigs, ignorant peasants and mythological figures who live in a dream world! Shame I missed you this time but maybe we can talk again in another few months - byeeee
As a final comment - THIS IS A GREEK MIRAGE IN THE AEGEAN - WHERE IT BELONGS!
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/ ... 34x452.jpg

Shame I missed you this time but maybe we can talk again in another few months - byeeee

The biggest self praising bullshitter on CF, maybe he's Erdogan's love child. It looks like he's making a "strategic withdrawal".

Byeeee to you too Little Oz.

[Mik]

[Lordo]

interesting that gr is talking about wiping out goccina civilians and liberal jerry attacks big oz. what a wonderful people greek cypriots are. bloody genocidal lunatics.


read and weep boys reed and weep. your time is a coming.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/defence/plan ... n/20130526