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[Paphitis]

Archeology meets politics

“Archeology can help the nationalist in several ways. It can literally create a past - real or imagined - that justifies a national claim to territory. It can create a "how great we once were" mentality that increases social cohesion or the desire to sacrifice for the nation.”

"Archeological information has been used and misused for centuries, if not millennia, but we're much more conscious of it today. Archeologists are well aware that they have to be very careful about what they say, and how they say it."

Greek archaeologists, our informant tells us, traditionally ignored the period of Ottoman rule, from 1458 to 1912. (The Ottoman Empire was based in Istanbul, now Turkey). "In most excavations, until recently, they would dig right through the Ottoman period." This was particularly true during the 1960s and '1970s, but is less so today, when tensions between Greece and Turkey have eased.

http://whyfiles.org/155war_archeo/3.html

I love you sources and it appears that the more we dig for these sources the more we realize that Archeology and history can be manipulated so effectively and that the NAZIs and Greeks were really good and effective at it.

[Get Real!]

What does this journalist mean by "test" the disc? I think he's a little mixed up - oh never mind, his own bio says:

John Tierney always wanted to be a scientist but went into journalism because its peer-review process was a great deal easier to sneak through.

You're the only one it seems who doesn't understand it because you don't want to!

No, I'm not the only one who ignores bizarre requests from uneducated journalists that just sit at their desk googling the next thing to attach "fake" to and grab the attention of lazy blogophiles like you.

So, why don't you tell me why the dating which has been done so far is not understood by this journalist and he prefers to "drill a hole" into it?

Since you think only scientists should question such things meet... Jerome M. Eisenberg, Ph.D

Jerome Eisenberg, a specialist in faked ancient art, is claiming that the disc and its indecipherable text is not a relic dating from 1,700BC, but a forgery that has duped scholars since Luigi Pernier, an Italian archaeologist, “discovered” it in 1908 in the Minoan palace of Phaistos on Crete.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Archeology meets politics

“Archeology can help the nationalist in several ways. It can literally create a past - real or imagined - that justifies a national claim to territory. It can create a "how great we once were" mentality that increases social cohesion or the desire to sacrifice for the nation.”

"Archeological information has been used and misused for centuries, if not millennia, but we're much more conscious of it today. Archeologists are well aware that they have to be very careful about what they say, and how they say it."

Greek archaeologists, our informant tells us, traditionally ignored the period of Ottoman rule, from 1458 to 1912. (The Ottoman Empire was based in Istanbul, now Turkey). "In most excavations, until recently, they would dig right through the Ottoman period." This was particularly true during the 1960s and '1970s, but is less so today, when tensions between Greece and Turkey have eased.

http://whyfiles.org/155war_archeo/3.html

I love you ...

Says it all really.

[Paphitis]

Archeology meets politics

“Archeology can help the nationalist in several ways. It can literally create a past - real or imagined - that justifies a national claim to territory. It can create a "how great we once were" mentality that increases social cohesion or the desire to sacrifice for the nation.”

"Archeological information has been used and misused for centuries, if not millennia, but we're much more conscious of it today. Archeologists are well aware that they have to be very careful about what they say, and how they say it."

Greek archaeologists, our informant tells us, traditionally ignored the period of Ottoman rule, from 1458 to 1912. (The Ottoman Empire was based in Istanbul, now Turkey). "In most excavations, until recently, they would dig right through the Ottoman period." This was particularly true during the 1960s and '1970s, but is less so today, when tensions between Greece and Turkey have eased.

http://whyfiles.org/155war_archeo/3.html

I love you ...

Says it all really.

IPhone.

That's why there are too many spelling errors and grammatical mistakes. Plus I couldn't be bothered.

[Oceanside50]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/place-lancashi ... /A24738618


http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/200 ... stos-disc/
..What bothers me in this article is Mr. Eisenberg’s attitude. He does not make the impression of an objective scientist seeking to find out the truth, rather he seems so overly anxious to prove that the Disc is fake. Read the article carefully – do you have the impression that he would be satisfied if the outcome of the test turned out negative? I see him fervently hoping that the test proves that the Disc is fake. Maybe it is, but I for one will not trust a test sponsored by a scientist with an agenda....

Carbon dating of the Shroud of Turin:
After years of discussion, the Holy See permitted radiocarbon dating on portions of a swatch taken from a corner of the shroud. Independent tests in 1988 at the University of Oxford, the University of Arizona, and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology concluded with 95% confidence that the shroud material dated to 1260–1390 AD.[1] This 13th to 14th century dating is much too recent for the shroud to have been associated with Jesus of Nazareth. The dating does however match the first appearance of the shroud in church history.[69] This dating is also slightly more recent than that estimated by art historian W.S.A. Dale, who postulated on artistic grounds that the shroud is an 11th-century icon made for use in worship services.[70]

later around 2010 the shroud was tested again with more modern methods and determined that it dated back to the time of Christ...
Going back to the clay disks...
Broken pottery, brickwork or tiles are unearthed at almost every archaeological dig site, but they are often of little use to archaeologists as determining how old they are is difficult. Carbon dating cannot be used because ceramics are made from finely-grained mineral clay, and alternative dating methods are complex and costly and not very accurate...

If these disks were to be tested today, the sample needed would be much more then what is specified in the article, potentially damaging the disks..

[kurupetos]

Archeology meets politics

“Archeology can help the nationalist in several ways. It can literally create a past - real or imagined - that justifies a national claim to territory. It can create a "how great we once were" mentality that increases social cohesion or the desire to sacrifice for the nation.”

"Archeological information has been used and misused for centuries, if not millennia, but we're much more conscious of it today. Archeologists are well aware that they have to be very careful about what they say, and how they say it."

Greek archaeologists, our informant tells us, traditionally ignored the period of Ottoman rule, from 1458 to 1912. (The Ottoman Empire was based in Istanbul, now Turkey). "In most excavations, until recently, they would dig right through the Ottoman period." This was particularly true during the 1960s and '1970s, but is less so today, when tensions between Greece and Turkey have eased.

http://whyfiles.org/155war_archeo/3.html

I love you ...

Says it all really.

That's useful.

[Paphitis]

C'mon guys!

If the Disc is not a fake, then test the damn thing and be done with it.

What are they hiding?

Is this another example of Greek debauchery like all the other things we were taught at Greek School?

[Oceanside50]

you cant accurately test clay...WTF!!

[kurupetos]

C'mon guys!

If the Disc is not a fake, then test the damn thing and be done with it.

What are they hiding?

Is this another example of Greek debauchery like all the other things we were taught at Greek School?

You're gay.

[Paphitis]

C'mon guys!

If the Disc is not a fake, then test the damn thing and be done with it.

What are they hiding?

Is this another example of Greek debauchery like all the other things we were taught at Greek School?

You're gay.

say's the Greek!