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[GreekIslandGirl]

[u]The current prevailing hypothesis is that the Minoan language was unrelated to the Indo-European family,

Contradicting yourself, yet again.

Earlier you said:

Linear A might be related to Sanskritt,

No I am not. You are wilfully selectively quoting. I pointed out in the same sentence it might also be Semitic. Semitic languages are not IE. There is no inconsistency.

That attempt dispicable low trick shows you in your true light, or rather true darkness.

The quote I selected made the point in context - but, actually, further highlights your contradiction.

Now you are saying that it's not inconsistent to state in the same sentence that it could be from an Indo-European language and it could be from a non-Indo-European language?

So, you don't have a clue but will say anything to make out Linear A is "non-Greek". It could be from anywhere in the world so long as it's not Greece even though that's where it's found.

Listen to me when I tell you that there is too much there for you to make sense of.

[supporttheunderdog]

Madam,
This as usual is your usual cow shit response, dismissive without dealing with any of tge substantive points raised simply because you are incapable of accepting any point of view which is contrary to your bigoted Hellenoimperialistic racist point of view. And thst is what you are, madam, a racist imperialist, an epithet your are happy to dish out when arguement fails

It is your theory, unsupported by any evidence or logical arguement that stands up to scrutiny.

Frankly you are pathetic.

You have failed to adress the most serious point of which is that Greek as a language only developed after about 2000 bc in mainland Greece following an invasion from the north of IE Speakers, before there was any regular contact between the first Greek speakers, the Mycenaeans, and the non Greek speaking MInoans. That contact did not occur until about 1700 bc, By which time the Minoan Civilisation with its own language was well developed.

I therfore suggest you come back with some credible academics or classists who (a) discuss the development of the Greek language, and (b) discuss the nature of the the Minoan language and Linear A, who support yiur so far unsupported imaginations. Ventris himself said linear a was not Greek, the study produced about the Europeaness of the Minoans (a point i have a semsntic disagreement with) and which I quoted did not say the Minoans spoke Greek.

Until you can do that i suggest, Madam, you STFU.

I would not say that to a lady, but, Madam, IMHO you are no lady.

I make no pretence at being any sort of chivalrous gentleman.

[GreekIslandGirl]

That's OK - I expected you to resort to insults now that you have painted yourself into a corner!

[Paphitis]

When the Minoan Civilisation began, there was no such thing as Greek!

CASE CLOSED!

[supporttheunderdog]

When the Minoan Civilisation began, there was no such thing as Greek!

CASE CLOSED!

Good call, mate.

Here is support is a link to a book by Dr Procope S Costas, a historian of and commentator on the Greek language, called

An Outline of the History of the Greek Language with Particular Emphasis on the Koine and the Subsequent Periods.

[url]https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Kx_NjXiMZM0C&pg=PA326&lpg=PA326&dq=An+Outline+of+the+History+of+the+Greek+Language+with+Particular+Emphasis+on+the+Koine+and+the+Subsequent+Periods&source=bl&ots=aCVEfC2_uS&sig=OR7rII7dtDJvhXS8XGFO9QUqj58&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDkQ6AEwBmoVChMIueCWsM7VxwIVgZ5yCh0pJAHH#v=onepage&q=An%20Outline%20of%20the%20History%20of%20the%20Greek%20Language%20with%20Particular%20Emphasis%20on%20the%20Koine%20and%20the%20Subsequent%20Periods&f=false
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The first three chapters address the origin of the Greek language and make it clear that what became Greek entered what is now mainland Greece from the North in about 2000BC before becoming Greek in that area. That was in the period after Linear A came into existence in about 2500 BC but before contact between the Mycenaeans and Minoans (to use modern labels) in the period around 1700 BC.

It must therefore follow LInear A cannot represent Greek, which did not exist for another few hundred years, around 500 years or so, and the Minoans could likewise not have spoken Greek as they seemingly had no contact with Greek speakers until as much 300 years after the development of Greece.

This is the point a certain woman has plainly failed to address expect by bland denial. I have invited her to do so, with supporting references, but she does not.

It illustrates that rather than me being in the corner it is her.

[Lordo]

she been in that corner ever since kindergarten. she was the naughtiest child there.

[cypriotnado]

When the Minoan Civilisation began, there was no such thing as Greek!

CASE CLOSED!

Good call, mate.

Here is support is a link to a book by Dr Procope S Costas, a historian of and commentator on the Greek language, called

An Outline of the History of the Greek Language with Particular Emphasis on the Koine and the Subsequent Periods.

[url]https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Kx_NjXiMZM0C&pg=PA326&lpg=PA326&dq=An+Outline+of+the+History+of+the+Greek+Language+with+Particular+Emphasis+on+the+Koine+and+the+Subsequent+Periods&source=bl&ots=aCVEfC2_uS&sig=OR7rII7dtDJvhXS8XGFO9QUqj58&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDkQ6AEwBmoVChMIueCWsM7VxwIVgZ5yCh0pJAHH#v=onepage&q=An%20Outline%20of%20the%20History%20of%20the%20Greek%20Language%20with%20Particular%20Emphasis%20on%20the%20Koine%20and%20the%20Subsequent%20Periods&f=false
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The first three chapters address the origin of the Greek language and make it clear that what became Greek entered what is now mainland Greece from the North in about 2000BC before becoming Greek in that area. That was in the period after Linear A came into existence in about 2500 BC but before contact between the Mycenaeans and Minoans (to use modern labels) in the period around 1700 BC.

It must therefore follow LInear A cannot represent Greek, which did not exist for another few hundred years, around 500 years or so, and the Minoans could likewise not have spoken Greek as they seemingly had no contact with Greek speakers until as much 300 years after the development of Greece.

This is the point a certain woman has plainly failed to address expect by bland denial. I have invited her to do so, with supporting references, but she does not.

It illustrates that rather than me being in the corner it is her.

Everyone who read and followed this topic knows that you and Paphitis are totally right. She is nuts and simply gets off on arguing and conflict for the sake of it, Not just with you but almost everybody else. She ignores facts is selective in what she quotes and God help anyone if they should say anything remotely critical of Greece. This is not last time she will do this as she thrives on this type of provocation. Don't waste your precious time or feed into her fantasy. Ignore her and hope she ignores you.

[repulsewarrior]

...you can believe whatever you want to, that is the 'gift' this forum offers, debate. Good on you dog, and GIG to have found an equal just as tenacious, and bold.

cheers, i find it interesting, the choice where i did not think there is one, never mind the peanut gallery, those seats in the nickel section have to be filled to make a dime, carry on and have a good time.

[cypriotnado]

...you can believe whatever you want to, that is the 'gift' this forum offers, debate. Good on you dog, and GIG to have found an equal just as tenacious, and bold.

cheers, i find it interesting, the choice where i did not think there is one, never mind the peanut gallery, those seats in the nickel section have to be filled to make a dime, carry on and have a good time.

For me Racist abuse which is her norm is unacceptable. The debate was over ages ago what you ended with was not debate but had turned into somthing more upsetting I quote;

' Until you can do that i suggest, Madam, you STFU.

I would not say that to a lady, but, Madam, IMHO you are no lady.

I make no pretence at being any sort of chivalrous gentleman.`'


That is what she thrives on, she winds people up. its twisted, its not having a good time, its distressing in my mind and its not the usual daft banter either.

[repulsewarrior]

...i'm sure dog "thrives" on it too, but i will let him speak for himself.