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Property appeal drives to the heart of the Cyprus problem

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Postby bg_turk » Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:34 am

Piratis wrote:Maybe RoC is forced to make some things that are unfair for TCs due to the illegality forced by Turkey and the TC leadership.

The RoC is not forced at all, it is unfair to the TCs of its own choosing as it is in complete control of the "free" areas.

However lets not forget that at the same time RoC forgets most of the responsibilities of TCs. If they didn't do that, then most TCs would have to be prosecuted for the many law violations they committed all these years.

Would it also charge those GC displaced people who at the moment illegally occupty turkish properties under the unconstiutional "doctrine of necessity"?
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Postby Main_Source » Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:26 pm

How is such a doctrine unconstitutional?

and please dont give me crap that GC refugees are occupying TC land. you stupid mug...i've heard it all.

GC refugees, being so large in number...have nowhere else to go. They were forced there by your country men. They ahve nowhere else to live....we would be very glad to have our land back but you dont want that to happen...and THEN, you accuse the same people of occupying those lands. you stupid arse.

BG Turk, would you for once in your life speak with some common sense and stop accusing other people of speaking in a nationalistic light, when it's blatent to see that you have very pro-Turkish tunnel vision.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:27 pm

The RoC is not forced at all, it is unfair to the TCs of its own choosing as it is in complete control of the "free" areas.

What the government did after the invasion was to distribute to some degree the losses from the invasion among all its citizens so some people will not have to live in tents and starve to death. They took a lot of land from my family for this purpose, and we still pay heavy taxes for refugees and defense. The TCs also had to take some of the weight, and this is what happened.

Would it also charge those GC displaced people who at the moment illegally occupy turkish properties under the unconstiutional "doctrine of necessity"?


This doctorine exists because of the illegal occupation by Turkey and Turkish Cypriots. They can end this illegality in one day if they want. They choose illegality not us, so why are they complaining now?

You may ask: why should there be a distinction between GCs and TCs? Good question. For the answer go ask your Turkish Cypriot friends that insisted in the past and they still insist that Cypriots are split based on their race and are not all treated as equal citizens.
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Postby bg_turk » Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:36 pm

Piratis wrote:This doctorine exists because of the illegal occupation by Turkey and Turkish Cypriots.


No, the doctrine exists because the Cyprus goverment has chosen so, and it will be brought to, challenged and defeated at the ECHR.

You may find this interesting:
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... &archive=1

The ECHR in Aziz vs Cyprus refused to accept that the Law of Necessity could be used to prevent Aziz, a Turkish Cypriot living in the south, from participating in general elections and voting in the Republic.
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Postby bg_turk » Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:43 pm

Dear "clever mug"

Main_Source wrote:How is such a doctrine unconstitutional?


Because this doctrine suspends the constiutional rights of TCs to own and dispose of their properties as they wish in direct contravention of the constitution.
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turkish propaganda

Postby lysi » Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:52 pm

There is a website called TRIPADVISOR it has a section on north cyprus , there is only one person putting the greek cypriot point of view .have a look and tell people about the injustice of the occupation.
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Postby Main_Source » Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:15 pm

BGTURK, your arguments hve no logic what so ever. How can you talk about constitutional rights for TC after what happend in 1974. Those constitutional rights did not take into consideration what would be happening in 1974 at all. I find a person like you, who is pro-separatist and all for the invasion, wanting to talk about TC rights when GC rights have been totally blown out of the water for so long, as totally ridiculous.

What are you trying to bring to this website? why are you here? why dont you just go to the ATCA website and talk your propaganda crap over and over again to people who want to believe it. your a joke.
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Postby bg_turk » Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:29 pm

Nothing changes the fact that the RoC has an obligation to respect its own constitution and not to discriminate amongst its citizens on the basis of ethnicity.
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Postby Main_Source » Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:47 pm

crap.

Its vertually impossible for RoC to respect the property rights constitution after the invasion has taken place, without causing a frenzy amongst GC who would be made refugees for a second time.

again, your being totally unrealistic.
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