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[supporttheunderdog]

oh dear dear me. you have been reading the greek orthodox history books again. if you do research you will find the truth. ottomans did not take anything from any culture except tax. and that was because they offered you protection. security is not cheap my little young friend.

Explain the death marches!

What were they for? Tax evasion?

you pick on one event and use it totally out of context. have a look at a few books and find out what was going on in that time.

let me help you a little bit so you dont continue to make an ass of yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cle ... ircassians

when you finish reading about this we can get onto others. how come countries do not champion the circassians cause is it because they are terks.

I wil happily condemn the campaign by Russia in the period 1817 to 1864 and all that went with it, includiing thevethnic cleansing of the Circassians. So many of the troubles in that part of the world flow from that event and we too feel the echoes in Cyprus.

[Oceanside50]

I think the Chinese had the right idea. The Assyrians, Armenians and Greeks should have built a great wall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map_ ... _China.jpg

The Greeks did build a wall in Constantinople, but some fool left the rear door unlocked and the Turks came pouring in and we haven't been able to stop the Turk flow through the figurative door ever since...

[Lordo]

learn about you history my friend he pulled ships over hills and got ships through your back door s it were.

[Demonax]

Turkey threatens to ban MPs from Gallipoli centenary over genocide vote

By defence correspondent Michael Brissenden
Updated Wed 21 Aug 2013, 9:35pm AEST

The Turkish Government has threatened to ban all members of the NSW Parliament from attending the centenary commemorations at Gallipoli in 2015.

The move comes in response to motions passed unanimously by the parliament in May officially recognising the Armenian genocide.

The notion of a genocide has long been a contentious point of debate for Turks many of whom argue that it is a misrepresentation of history.

But many scholars and other eyewitness accounts, some from Anzac Prisoners of War who were interned in empty Armenian churches, witnessed the deportation and emptying out of Armenian villages and support the genocide claims.

The pilgrimage to Gallipoli has become almost a rite of passage for young Australians. It is, for many, about connecting with a national identity.

But as they stand bleary eyed at the dawn service wrapped in the flag, few would know that in 1915 as Australian soldiers were forging their own national mythology on the beaches of Anzac Cove – elsewhere in Turkey the Ottoman regime was conducting the wholesale removal and destruction of another national identity.

That process of deportations, forced marches and executions began in the area known as Anatolia just days before the ANZACS landed at Gallipoli.

But many historians fear that as we approach the centenary of both events, the Anzac legend and the Gallipoli industry that has sprung up around it may obscure the other important commemoration.

People were 'systematically eliminated'

The Christian campaigner and NSW Upper House MP Fred Nile was the force behind the unanimous motions passed by both houses of the NSW Parliament.

He says the Armenians have no time for arguments about definitions or the sensitivities of the modern Turkish state.

Mr Nile has just returned from a tour of Armenia with a cross-party delegation.

"(The Ottoman Turks) just eliminated people systematically – community by community, village by village", he says.

"In fact it's interesting that when Adolf Hitler planned the genocide of the Jews there were some questions asked and he said himself 'Don't worry, who remembers the Armenian genocide?' Who remembers it?"

And genocide scholars also have no doubts.

Colin Tatz is a world renowned genocide expert who has spent his entire career investigating racial extermination from Nazi Germany through to the Australian frontier wars.

"There is categorical evidence that what happened between 1915 and 1922 was genocide of the Armenians, the Pontian Greeks and the Assyrian communities to the extent of roughly half of their population".

Scholars like professor Tatz put the final death toll at about one-and-a-half million people and he says many Armenians have welcomed the NSW Parliamentary motions...

World War I historians, such as Peter Stanley who worked for many years at the War Memorial, say 2015 should be an occasion that allows both countries to be bigger than their national self interest.

"I would expect that it would be covered in proportion by an Australian institution that is explaining to us the First World War as a whole," he said.

"I think the Turks are expecting that the friendship we forged through Gallipoli, which is genuine, is enough to paper over our knowledge of the Armenian genocide but the fact of the matter is it isn't.

"Australians want to know the truth about the First World War and the truth about the Great War is that a million-and-half Armenians died at the hands of the Ottoman Empire."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-21/t ... te/4903444

[DrCyprus]

read and learn you intellectually challenged excuse for a human being. and i did not even mention the greek genocide in west anatolia and makedonya.

Read what? Davidoglu's cheap propaganda? Does he believe it himself?

Asia Minor was Greek long time before the Ottoman scumbags arrived from Mongolia, and sooner or later we will free it, just like our ancestors liberated the Greek mainland in the 19th century.

Only very small parts of Asia Minor could historically be claimed as Greek. Even so, I think you should stick your ultranationalistic bullshit up your ass and wake up.