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[Maximus]

are these rebels the people who are trying to free themselves of domination and discrimination, the people who want democracy and the freedom to rule themselves?

No, they are Turkish, Saudi, UAE, and Tunisian mercenaries paid for and trained by the US and Turkey.

Don't forget Qatar.

[Get Real!]

are these rebels the people who are trying to free themselves of domination and discrimination, the people who want democracy and the freedom to rule themselves?

No, they are Turkish, Saudi, UAE, and Tunisian mercenaries paid for and trained by the US and Turkey.

Don't forget Qatar.

Ok, there's probably more but I can't remember everything.

[Maximus]

are these rebels the people who are trying to free themselves of domination and discrimination, the people who want democracy and the freedom to rule themselves?

No, they are Turkish, Saudi, UAE, and Tunisian mercenaries paid for and trained by the US and Turkey.

Don't forget Qatar.

Ok, there's probably more but I can't remember everything.

The rebels are essentially a third element. While Davutoglu is trying establish the " Turkish republic of northern Syria " for the jihadists, the interests and objectives of the greater powers diverge.

If you give the legitimate people of Syria a choice, through a democratic vote, they would choose Assad because he is the lesser evil.

[Maximus]

Can you see any familiarities with the past VP?

Once Erdogan has ethnically cleanses a third of Syria, he will resettle the Syrian refugees that are 'enclaved' in Turkey and flood them with Turkish settlers to help their 'embargoed' economy. All this will be maintained by the Turkish armed forces and the jihadists, for their 'protection' against 'discrimination and domination'.

Turkey will then spend the next 50+ years trying to upgrade the "Turkish republic of northern Syria" as a recognized puppet state of hers and cause major problems for the Syrian people. Regardless of the outcome, Turkey has lost Syria's friendship and will continue to live complete denial as she chugs along towards the Ottoman empire version 2.0.

[Viewpoint]

Can you see any familiarities with the past VP?

Once Erdogan has ethnically cleanses a third of Syria, he will resettle the Syrian refugees that are 'enclaved' in Turkey and flood them with Turkish settlers to help their 'embargoed' economy. All this will be maintained by the Turkish armed forces and the jihadists, for their 'protection' against 'discrimination and domination'.

Turkey will then spend the next 50+ years trying to upgrade the "Turkish republic of northern Syria" as a recognized puppet state of hers and cause major problems for the Syrian people. Regardless of the outcome, Turkey has lost Syria's friendship and will continue to live complete denial as she chugs along towards the Ottoman empire version 2.0.

Total rubbish, Turkey is not a guarantor nor does she have internationally recognized agreements to back her up, you obvioulsy do not support the freedom of the Syrian people and their plight to get rid of a dictator who resembles your own perverted leader makarios.

[Maximus]

Can you see any familiarities with the past VP?

Once Erdogan has ethnically cleanses a third of Syria, he will resettle the Syrian refugees that are 'enclaved' in Turkey and flood them with Turkish settlers to help their 'embargoed' economy. All this will be maintained by the Turkish armed forces and the jihadists, for their 'protection' against 'discrimination and domination'.

Turkey will then spend the next 50+ years trying to upgrade the "Turkish republic of northern Syria" as a recognized puppet state of hers and cause major problems for the Syrian people. Regardless of the outcome, Turkey has lost Syria's friendship and will continue to live complete denial as she chugs along towards the Ottoman empire version 2.0.

Total rubbish, Turkey is not a guarantor nor does she have internationally recognized agreements to back her up, you obvioulsy do not support the freedom of the Syrian people and their plight to get rid of a dictator who resembles your own perverted leader makarios.

Davutoglu has been trying to sell a 'humanitarian corridor' to the international community !!.

[Maximus]

Turkey does not have an internationally recognized agreement which states that she can occupy the northern third of Cyprus.

[repulsewarrior]

Can you see any familiarities with the past VP?

Once Erdogan has ethnically cleanses a third of Syria, he will resettle the Syrian refugees that are 'enclaved' in Turkey and flood them with Turkish settlers to help their 'embargoed' economy. All this will be maintained by the Turkish armed forces and the jihadists, for their 'protection' against 'discrimination and domination'.

Turkey will then spend the next 50+ years trying to upgrade the "Turkish republic of northern Syria" as a recognized puppet state of hers and cause major problems for the Syrian people. Regardless of the outcome, Turkey has lost Syria's friendship and will continue to live complete denial as she chugs along towards the Ottoman empire version 2.0.

Total rubbish, Turkey is not a guarantor nor does she have internationally recognized agreements to back her up, you obvioulsy do not support the freedom of the Syrian people and their plight to get rid of a dictator who resembles your own perverted leader makarios.

Davutoglu has been trying to sell a 'humanitarian corridor' to the international community !!.

...makes sense in a perverted way: Turkey is the world's broker for heroin, Turkey wants to be a world leader brokering Gaz (the stuff that wars are made of); why not a broker for Human traffic?

Maximus, you are spot on when it comes to Turkey's relationship with Syria because there are land disputes between them. furthermore, there is the Kurdish issue which spans several countries and adds to the 'grey' where Turkey can implicate herself, to define what is "Turkish" and what is not. most importantly, the divisions in Syria demonstrate how in such extremes, revenge does not stop, it is exploited, it escalates. Individuals (who are normally Peace keeping because there is a common Rule of Law), acting for themselves (as Persons) feel secure they have the support in these acts of most Criminal behaviour.

...in essence it boils down to what you want to believe in: People as Individuals, or People as Persons. and in that respect, your acts are Ignorant or Human.

...it is possible that Turkey will Modernise its State, so that it is Bicommunal, a Federation, and Bizonal, where the Federal Government is Sovereign in representing its Citizens, and where there are Territorial Jurisdictions where people as Persons acting in National Assemblies to sustain and promote the distinctions of this Identity choose, in demonstrating Goodwill toward the minorities amongst them. when we talk about templates, the Cyprus Problem becomes complex. it is not the Cypriots who are not ready for this thinking, nor the "Greeks" who have submitted, from their point of view, to this compromise, like in Turkey, it is the "Turks".

...a Turkish spring is not as far off as Erdogan thinks, the billions that are being spent on grand projects is difficult enough to manage, but he adds to the risks he takes in Turkey's International affairs with a belligerance which costs billions more; too boot, thanks to wikileaks, we know it is a charade, confidence, and credibility, are issues, amongst his global partners.

[repulsewarrior]

Turkey does not have an internationally recognized agreement which states that she can occupy the northern third of Cyprus.

...well said.

[Viewpoint]

Turkey does not have an internationally recognized agreement which states that she can occupy the northern third of Cyprus.

Thats where you are wrong, Turkey has the right to intervene, in order to resolve matters then she will leave. Have we resolved anything no so thats why she will remain, simple really but unfortunately you are unable to comprehend facts.